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Councelling
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Crystalrainbow
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I have counseling at the mo which has been ongoing since my band was fitted, it certainly helping me come to terms with the causes of my being overweight and the avoidance tactics i have had in place for many years, i now find myself having to deal with my causes now instead of hiding behind food and my weight. It works for some and not for others, over the years i have been in and out of counseling and only now finding it helpful, maybe because i have no excuses anymore or maybe because i have a wonderful therapist who knows 
but give it ago. Congrats on the fab losses tho hun every stone is a milestone x x x
but give it ago. Congrats on the fab losses tho hun every stone is a milestone x x x
Ellzee
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Hi crystal! Do you get the counselling as part of your aftercare or do you do that separately? I'm booked in for my op on 27th June and know I have the willpower to make the changes I need to make it work. However, I know that I will not have dealt with my binge/overeating issues and am worried they could return later in life.
Do you find it worthwhile? Has it changed your mind set or behaviours or just reinforced what you already knew? Would be interested to hear your opinions! x
Do you find it worthwhile? Has it changed your mind set or behaviours or just reinforced what you already knew? Would be interested to hear your opinions! x
Crystalrainbow
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Hi Hun I get my counseling thru my gp surgery, its not part of my weight loss treatment, i organised it before my op because i was feeling completely lost in life at the time. Fortunately my first session completely fell into line with the op, i think i was just a couple of weeks post op when i had the first session.
I had my band fitted via the NHS and i didn't get to see the psychologist because i didn't have eating issues LOL get that one !!!! I personally believe we all have eating issues of some sort else we wouldn't be here would we?? Obliviously the NHS has limited funds and they offer this weight loss service as a cure to the obesity but in my mind don't deal with the causes. I was never a binge eater, just an emotional eater (without really even knowing it LOL) now i have found i have to use alternative strategies to get thru emotional situations, the counselor has helped dramatically, she has become my mirror, to reflect back on why i am the way i am, and why i do what i do........... i have had counseling in the past and not found it useful at all............. i think the key is having a great councilor and being in the place where your ready to delve into your demons and face them head on, for me this has happened since the band op, i guess i've had to deal with things now rather than just bury my head in the nearest bar of chocolate lol As the weight has been coming off, i have sort of become like an onion...............as my layers have been peeling back my past issues have become nearer to the surface to deal with. SO for me its been invaluable and would recommend it to anyone Its certainly not been an easy thing to do, but its made me question alot, and i feel i have gained my power back rather than allowing everything around me control me so much For years i guess food has just dulled the pain and now its really not an option lol
Go see your gp ask if the can refer you but i have a feeling you can self refer too, there maybe a waiting list so ask soon. My first appointment was to find out what sort of therapy would be useful......... its just a talking therapy, i've tried CBT in the past but was not ready for the goal setting at the time. I have also found just posting here has helped, logging how i'm feeling in my little diary, it kinda clears the mind and helps to keep you focused
It sounds like your in the same place as me too, i knew i had the strength to work with the band, and the counseling has just stopped the merry go round of emotion, eat, feel bad, eat, feel worse lol
I think if you have issues which are not dealt with they are always at some point going to resurface in times of stress, so i think it would be extremely beneficial to talk them out before that time comes
Nothing ventured nothing gained hunni go for it if you ever need to chat you know where i am I wish you heaps of luck hunni.............
xxxxxx
I get my counseling thru my gp surgery, its not part of my weight loss treatment, i organised it before my op because i was feeling completely lost in life at the time. Fortunately my first session completely fell into line with the op, i think i was just a couple of weeks post op when i had the first session.I had my band fitted via the NHS and i didn't get to see the psychologist because i didn't have eating issues LOL get that one !!!! I personally believe we all have eating issues of some sort
else we wouldn't be here would we?? Obliviously the NHS has limited funds and they offer this weight loss service as a cure to the obesity but in my mind don't deal with the causes. I was never a binge eater, just an emotional eater (without really even knowing it LOL) now i have found i have to use alternative strategies to get thru emotional situations, the counselor has helped dramatically, she has become my mirror, to reflect back on why i am the way i am, and why i do what i do........... i have had counseling in the past and not found it useful at all............. i think the key is having a great councilor and being in the place where your ready to delve into your demons and face them head on, for me this has happened since the band op, i guess i've had to deal with things now rather than just bury my head in the nearest bar of chocolate lol As the weight has been coming off, i have sort of become like an onion...............as my layers have been peeling back my past issues have become nearer to the surface to deal with. SO for me its been invaluable and would recommend it to anyone Its certainly not been an easy thing to do, but its made me question alot, and i feel i have gained my power back rather than allowing everything around me control me so much For years i guess food has just dulled the pain and now its really not an option lol Go see your gp ask if the can refer you
but i have a feeling you can self refer too, there maybe a waiting list so ask soon. My first appointment was to find out what sort of therapy would be useful......... its just a talking therapy, i've tried CBT in the past but was not ready for the goal setting at the time. I have also found just posting here has helped, logging how i'm feeling in my little diary, it kinda clears the mind and helps to keep you focused It sounds like your in the same place as me too, i knew i had the strength to work with the band, and the counseling has just stopped the merry go round of emotion, eat, feel bad, eat, feel worse lol
I think if you have issues which are not dealt with they are always at some point going to resurface in times of stress, so i think it would be extremely beneficial to talk them out before that time comes
Nothing ventured nothing gained hunni go for it
if you ever need to chat you know where i am I wish you heaps of luck hunni............. xxxxxx
Ellzee
Member
Thanks for taking the time to reply so thoroughly about the counselling. I do have a deep mistrust of GPs who generally seem to think you are just there to get as much free treatment as possible. Therefore they see it as their job to fob you off the first few times you ask about something.
I never even asked about getting the op on the NHS, I figured I would have no chance and I hate jumping through hoops and long waits once my mind is made up.
I imagine if I tell my GP I've had private surgery they'll never support counselling. I might look into doing it privately though, it sounds like it has helped you and I do want to banish whatever demons I have that make me do what I do. The band will help greatly, but it won't fix those.
I'll look into it, thanks again! x
I never even asked about getting the op on the NHS, I figured I would have no chance and I hate jumping through hoops and long waits once my mind is made up.
I imagine if I tell my GP I've had private surgery they'll never support counselling. I might look into doing it privately though, it sounds like it has helped you and I do want to banish whatever demons I have that make me do what I do. The band will help greatly, but it won't fix those.
I'll look into it, thanks again! x
I tried getting counselling on the NHS for mild depression, the waiting list was more than 6 months and I got removed after 4 months because it was going to be so long. I really think its time the NHS recognised the - relatively cost effecctive - role counselling could play in tackling obesity!
Crystalrainbow
Well-Known Member
They always treat the symptoms not the cause.......... I had my band fitted on the NHS the first consultant i saw seemed to have the right idea and it all sounded fab (at the time) he agreed that most of us going thru wls surgery had 'issues' of some description the aim was to treat the cause with seeing a psychologist and getting the treatment we needed at the time i wasn't sure i could go thru with surgery but i stayed in the system to get the emotional support ......... my previous doctors had referred me to Mind, and to be honest it was a waste of time, i had 2 interviews and both times i hear nothing afterwards ............ and still to this day i have never heard........... anyway we move house almost a year ago and will say the support from my local gp has been amazing............. needless to say the emotional help via the hospital never came lol but my docs have been amazing. The nurse referred me, a week later i had a phone call checking how i was....... 2 weeks later my first appointment next week i'm about to begin my second round........... its another postcode lottery unfortunately.
Gl all with finding help out there, for me its been so very helpful, i know i've been very lucky.
Gp or private just make sure you find a good one, mine is like gold dust, but i've had some duds over the years. x x x
at the time i wasn't sure i could go thru with surgery but i stayed in the system to get the emotional support ......... my previous doctors had referred me to Mind, and to be honest it was a waste of time, i had 2 interviews and both times i hear nothing afterwards ............ and still to this day i have never heard........... anyway we move house almost a year ago and will say the support from my local gp has been amazing............. needless to say the emotional help via the hospital never came lol but my docs have been amazing. The nurse referred me, a week later i had a phone call checking how i was....... 2 weeks later my first appointment next week i'm about to begin my second round........... its another postcode lottery unfortunately.Gl all with finding help out there, for me its been so very helpful, i know i've been very lucky.
Gp or private just make sure you find a good one, mine is like gold dust, but i've had some duds over the years. x x x
ThinnerJemima
Here all the time.....
Just find a good one that is qualified with a proper degree, not a counselling course for a couple of days or read a book!!
Mine who admittedly I was suspicious off from the start (but I am way too cynical) turned out to be a complete fraudulent shister.
It had been emotional blackmail from day one that I had to constantly go else 'I would fail' which was just a money spinner for her.
Good riddance to bad rubbish I do believe is the expression.
I am so glad that cheat is OUT OF MY LIFE
:rant2::flamingmad:
Mine who admittedly I was suspicious off from the start (but I am way too cynical) turned out to be a complete fraudulent shister.
It had been emotional blackmail from day one that I had to constantly go else 'I would fail' which was just a money spinner for her.
Good riddance to bad rubbish I do believe is the expression.
I am so glad that cheat is OUT OF MY LIFE
:rant2::flamingmad:
Madcatwoman
Member
I'm surprised you had a problem with mind, I had 12 weeks of counselling with them for depression, after my assessment they phoned me to arrange sessions within about 2 weeks! They were great. I guess its different in each area.
Crystalrainbow
Well-Known Member
It was several years back now but Unfortunately
my first assessment got lost or forgotten, had a second assessment and never heard a thing. Although i did get diagnosed with PTSD while there......... but all's well that ends well my councilor now is fab, i don't think until now anything would have helped anyway because i really wasn't in the right head space.......... your right every area differs ..... i've only moved 20 miles down the road and the health service on offer here is second to none Gl all x x x
