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in two minds

marz

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This is my first post - I am seriously considering going the surgical route and until this morning I was quite sure this was the right way forward, but I am beginning to have second thoughts. I have a consultation coming up this week... Like many people here I have struggled since childhood and nothing has really worked long term. My family don't really understand so I haven't discussed this with them.

Are the complications really that bad? What is worse .. not losing weight or having to live with the consequences of such a permanent procedure? Also, what is wrong with me that I don't have the self control to have a crash diet like that without permanently altering my insides?

Has anyone been where I am now? Any advice?
 
Hello and welcome...I was exactly the same...I booked a consultation for a band in October 2013 I think it was then cancelled it. Then I put more weight on and did more reading up and booked a consultation elsewhere for a sleeve. I was booked in for June 2014 for a sleeve but wobbled again and cancelled it but after a lot if thought I booked back in for August 2014. I am very glad I went for it and am amazed at the difference it's made to me and the result. Good luck with your choice.
 
I think a lot of us have had similar thoughts, I know I did but I also knew I'd tried every diet known to man and yet here I was bigger than I'd ever been and getting bigger..........
 
I have never doubted that I had made the right decision going for WLS and even reading some of the horror stories of when things go wrong I still didn't waiver ,its good to know all the facts but hope you wont have any problems and so far nearly 11 months post op ,no problems best decision ive ever taken
I wish you the best
 
Hi marz,

yes, I most defo am in the same place as you are.

So in 2 minds.

But I know 1 thing: there is nothing wrong with us. We struggle and try to find something that will help us.

For some that's surgery, for others it's not.

I haven't completely made up my mind yet either. A lot will depend on waiting times and finances for me.

For the past 2 weeks I have been reading as many blogs and boards and research papers as my brain can take.

I want to have as much info as I can before making this decision. Being the sad nerd that I am, I've made a handful of spreadsheet with lists of pros and cons, questions I have, my fears, my hopes and expectations, things I still need to work on, pitfalls, things I've accomplished already to make my new life after surgery work,...

Digesting info this way really helps me to make decisions, especially big ones like this.

In the next few weeks, I'm seeing my GP, and 5(!) surgeons to help me decide.

Good luck!
 
I think most of us swing back and forth. I remember phoning up a provider about a band a year or so ago, then wobbled and didn't follow it up into a consultation and embarked on (yet another) diet. Guess what, now I'm even heavier than I was then!

What finally made my mind up was having a chat with a consultant who essentially said that the odds were very much against me losing weight and keeping it off on my own. I was terrified about the stats I've read about a 1 in 200 mortality rate for WLS but, again, the consultant reminded me that was just an average. On an individual level, as I'm fit with no other health issues he said my risks would be more like 1 in 2-3,000.

There are of course complications but I tend to think that you're likely to get a skewed idea of how many there are on a forum like this for the simple reason that if your WLS is successful and you lose your weight you're likely to stop using a weight loss support forum and just get on with your new life, whereas if you haven't lost it or you've had complications, you're likely to carry on using the forum for the support.
 
I talked myself into going to the consultation regardless and am glad I did. Much like you BESE I drew up the pros and cons and looked at ways to address the cons. I even tried to give myself a way out through doing it without surgery but couldn't manage a day so I now think sleeve is the way to go.

Sundown I have never been so large and I too have been trying other things for years now. What have you decided to do? Have you booked a date?

Family are dead set against it so I'm just refusing to engage in any discussion.... Can you do an operation without a chaperone? Without losing weight I know my life is destined to medical nightmares that hey progressively worse so I know I need it.

Any advice on approaching family constructively?
 
I'd been thinking about surgery on and off for years, went for a couple on consultations, booked the op and paid. Then I found this (and other forums) and so many horror stories. Emotional rollercoaster for me but in my opinion you need to step away from all that and get logical on yourself. Emotions were what likely got me into abnormal eating in the first place so why would I trust them?:rolleyes:
 
Sundown I have never been so large and I too have been trying other things for years now. What have you decided to do? Have you booked a date?

Hey marz. Well I had a consultation last week and I'm likely to hear about a date early this week (consultant's secretary was on hols last week). I'm hoping for late October. I went off to the consultation on my own and armed with a list of questions; including how many of these ops the consultant had done, how many mortalities and what percentage had complications.

Family are dead set against it so I'm just refusing to engage in any discussion.... Can you do an operation without a chaperone? Without losing weight I know my life is destined to medical nightmares that hey progressively worse so I know I need it.

Well for me, my partner is supportive at present but my worry is that he prefers larger women and no matter how much he loves me, I fear he may no longer find me attractive if I lost most of my weight (but that won't stop me I'll hasten to add). My Mum is cautious and thinks it's extremely drastic. She's accepted that I won't lose weight on my own, but is more on the "You're happy enough, why don't you just leave things as they are?" side of the argument. The rest of the family are dead against it and think I'm being irresponsible/stupid/wasteful and should just diet and exercise more if I want to be slimmer.

Any advice on approaching family constructively?

Have all the facts to hand. It's a *fact* that 95% of people who diet put the weight back on in 5 years so diets alone are not the solution for the vast majority. Have the facts about WLS surgery to hand; it's not just that it's changing how much you can eat, or how what you eat is processed (in the case of bypass), it's that it's literally changing you hormonally so that you have more normal hunger/full signals, higher sex drive, less likelihood of developing Type II Diabetes (and if you already have it, the surgery seems to fix it). The following is an interesting article on hormonal changes following bypass surgery: How Does Gastric Bypass Affect Weight Loss Hormones? | Laparoscopic.MD
Conventional diets don't change those hormones which, they believe, is why the vast majority fail long-term.

Against that,give them the figures on the likelihood of developing serious conditions if you stay obese. For instance you have a 40% greater chance of suffering from some types of cancer if you're obese. You've got more chance of suffering from heart disease, stroke, diabetes, infertility, sleep apnea etc. On the society front it's a fact that, all other things being equal, an obese person applying for a job will likely lose it to a thin candidate. In work obese people are likely to be paid less than their thin counterparts. We suffer on the insurance front; often finding it impossible to get life insurance. Society is becoming more and more prejudiced against the obese too.

If you are clear that you want the surgery then I think the way to tackle family is to stay away from the emotional side (that's the side they'll be arguing from) and concentrate on those cold, stark facts. If the worst comes to the worst, pull the emotional card....."You love me, so do you really want to see me stay fat and die young because you're not willing to understand how this surgery can help me?"
 
I'm pragmatic about things, and it still took 3 years to decide.

Family generally supportive but for the most part, I didn't care even if they weren't. I k ew they would be though as my wife had one years ago and they have seen the huge changes in her life.

Everyone is different but I can say in all honesty, it has been the best thing I've ever done beyond getting married and having kids. I've had no complications and as long as I don't, there is no reason for me to regret anything. I'm headed toward slim, and it's removed the biggest barrier to life and happiness - my weight.

I was never a happy fatty. That image people see of the obese and I'm of the opinion that most who look and act happy, aren't. Same way that I see most smokers - most say they enjoy it, but of those who quit, they are generally much happier to have that huge stress removed from their lives (again from experience smoking is the cause of stress not the relief. The relief I got when I smoked, was really just the removal of the stress it caused).

My obese weight gain was an addiction transferral from quitting smoking. I was always overweight but never obese till I quit smoking and allowed that transferral. There has so far been no transferral this time.
 
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