Nybody been put fwd under new ccg's ?

[bigbeefybuilder]

ANYBODY BEEN PUT FORWARD UNDER NEW CCG'S ?


hi all,

could any body tell me if they have been put forward for weight loss sujury since the pct and nice has been changed

just trying to find out who i get intouch with next, as barnsley hospital seems not to want me to have the operation been turned down twice because i don't meet there critera, im wondering if i should go back to my gp and try again? it seem since 2009 all i seem to be doing is going round in circles.

just want to in the uk as anybody been granted the operation since the changes
were made to the nhs?

any help advice would put my mind at rest one way or the other.

have a lovely sunny weekend

bigbeefybuilder

 

[moomoo1]

i have but im having revision surgery not initial op whats your bmi do you fit the criteria?

 

[sezzer13]

Does any one know if anyone has been funded yet. My doctor applied for my funding over 2 weeks ago and i have not heard anything yet x

 

[mummy2309]

not sure about the funding part i dont know anyone YET he has, but its only early days, it tuck me nearly 5 years from first asking to funding to getting the op, so good luck

 

[Zoobles]

I asked my GP about a referral today and she said that essentially the bariatric service doesn't exist in my area (Kent) at the moment. It's 'on the agenda' with the commissioning group, so hopefully there will be more info 'in a few months’

 

[moomoo1]

I asked my GP about a referral today and she said that essentially the bariatric service doesn't exist in my area (Kent) at the moment. It's 'on the agenda' with the commissioning group, so hopefully there will be more info 'in a few months’

you can ask to be reffered to another area tho there was a lady from kent at the mdt day last week you need to get clued up on all the rules as im sure you can get help but might need to travel for it xx

 

[Zoobles]

Oh really? That's good news! My GP said that there is just no funding for any in Kent (in my area at least) until the commissioning group have met etc., so not for a few months...

 

[rudders]

Oh really? That's good news! My GP said that there is just no funding for any in Kent (in my area at least) until the commissioning group have met etc., so not for a few months...

Where in Kent?
My brother inlaw is Kent and got the ok last week. X

 

[Zoobles]

I come under West Kent PCT (whatever it is now). Where is your brother-in-law in Kent?

 

[rudders]

I come under West Kent PCT (whatever it is now). Where is your brother-in-law in Kent?

Erith in Kent x
All a bit confusing

 

[Zoobles]

I got the distinct impression that my GP thinks it's going to be very difficult round here to get a referral now :/

 

[janeybec]

I'm in maidstone and my doc wouldn't even refer me to a dietitian! Apparently being big wasn't enough....I was told if I was diabetic they would consider helping me! But my doctor said its almost impossible to refer patients atm.....hence the fact I begged, borrowed and worked my bottom off to afford private banding. It's so not right though, if you need help it should be given...I thought that's what nhs was there for!

 

[fjsinc]

The CCGs are not responsible for commissioning bariatric services (in England). It is now centralised to NHS England.

So your doc is right, there is no funding in Kent (or anywhere else for that matter). But that does not mean there is no funding!

The information leaflet is available here:
http://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/a05-p-a.pdf

 

[Zoobles]

Thank you so much for that info & link. So how do I get my GP to refer me in the correct way to access this centralised funding? I have to go back and see her in 3 weeks, so I'll try again then!!

 

[moomoo1]

Where in Kent?
My brother inlaw is Kent and got the ok last week. X

is he being done at st Richards? that's where I met ppl from kent last week lol

 

[rudders]

is he being done at st Richards? that's where I met ppl from kent last week lol

No he is at the PRU in Orpington x

 

[fjsinc]

"What the NHS Commissioning Board commissions
The NHS Commissioning Board (NHS CB) [NHS England]commissions specialist morbid obesity
services from Specialist Morbid Obesity Centres. This includes all bariatric surgery
and associated care delivered by the Specialist Centre, including medical care and
specialist weight management care for patients unsuitable for or not requiring
surgery.

Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs) commission local weight management
services."

The above statements come from the NHS England operating manual.

To be fair, things are very much in flux at the moment with all the changes, and I know that Obesity services are one of the first things that have/will be reviewed. There are new policies coming in, in October. Your GP should have been provided with the resources on how to make applications to NHS England.

Have a look at the documents here: A05. Severe and Complex Obesity | NHS England

 

[bigbeefybuilder]

i have but im having revision surgery not initial op whats your bmi do you fit the criteria?

hi moomoo, well my height is 183 my weight is 145 but i hear that even if the rules have changed barnsley are still keeping to bmi between 45 - 50 im going to wait to see what the new rules are.

ive appealed twice god knows how you can keep appealing ive got other health probs with me have sleep apnia in fact im fetching my new cpact machine friday suffer with reflux have very bad arthritas been told i need two new knees, and suffer chronic protatis pain.

bigbeefybuilder

 

[bigbeefybuilder]

I'm in maidstone and my doc wouldn't even refer me to a dietitian! Apparently being big wasn't enough....I was told if I was diabetic they would consider helping me! But my doctor said its almost impossible to refer patients atm.....hence the fact I begged, borrowed and worked my bottom off to afford private banding. It's so not right though, if you need help it should be given...I thought that's what nhs was there for!

hi, sorry your gp wouldn't help you, can you go to another dr and sk there opion? im not diabetic but on the halfway point has i have had the diabetic test and after first blood test my blood sugar was 14 my last test was 3.4.

i would look to either going to another dr or cheking your hospital to see if they have a weight wise and try that way.
all the best bigbeefybuilder

 

[sezzer13]

My gp got a letter back from the commissioning board thanking her for referring me and stating hopefuly i have been referred to the service no futher action taken.
Its sounds promising to me but we dont know what it means my gp is just waiting for the commission board to ring her back to explain what it actually means. Has anyone else had this