i know what you mean tray,but ther again, if it comes off that littlebit slower, you might not have as many probs with loose skin, it gives it a bit of time to shrink back a bit. mine is coming off really slow,but it IS coming off, its taken me from end of april to lose 3 stone. but cos im tiny, you can really tell now. ivegot somewhere between 1 and 2 stone left to go. you can really tell the difference in you, so its all good. big hugs xx