2 year wait for bypass

[bonny]

No it won't. It might put your diabetes into remission where you can control it with diet, or you might still have to take medication. There is no "Cure" for diabetes. I was lucky in that mine is now controlled by diet alone but that is not the case for everybody

Two years does seem a long time, I waited a year, however there are a huge number of people now on waiting lists for WLS and they got on the list in front of you is all, why do you feel that you should be allowed to jump the queue? Use the time to prepare yourself for surgery

Welcome to Minis x

if you knew my health condition only then would you understand, as i could die by then as ive had the same problem as my aunt and she died 18 months ago and seeing as im having lots of ops for the diabetes as i may need 3-4 ops within the 2 years because of diabetes and other health problems, i wouldent want to leave my child who depends on me as they are special needs and they have a disability
you havent researched so you may not be aware of the benefits

 

[bonny]

hi bonny im under dr hasani as well and they told me a year wait but i started my journey in august and ive only just got my date for the nurse on 9,feb 2011 so lets hope we dont wait to long

fingers crossed, see you there

 

[Stellap]

Hi Bonny I think you will find that the vast majority of people on the nhs waiting list have serious health issues which is why they have funding as it's very difficult to get without co morbidities. Diabetes isn't cured by the op but can be vastly improved or put into remission as was my case and I think carlos' as well. You will probably need the waiting time so you can have all the tests and appointments you need and to prepare for the op so it is as safe as possible. The time will go quickly and you will be prepared when the time comes. You are one of the lucky ones to get the op on the nhs (as I was) given the cutbacks I think everyone will find it hard now. Good luck and hope the surgeon has been over cautious in timescales x

 

[Karlos]

i was not jumping the q but some people dont have related problems and seeing as you dont know what other health problems i have then your not in a position to judge,

You’re right that’s why I asked a question rather than made a judgement.

i can only go by what the health professionals tell me if you dont agree then maybe you should contact them to give them your view as some people want this treatment for diabetes and they are slim

Mr Shamsi El-Hasani, who is a leading consultant in this field is calling for this kind of weight loss surgery to be used more widely to treat type 2 diabetes, one of the country's fastest-growing conditions which can lead to serious health complications.
Mr El-Hasani has been using gastric band and gastric bypass surgery, proven to help the management of poorly controlled type 2 diabetes since, since 2000 and has helped hundreds of patients to improve their health.
Consultant General Surgeon and Bariatric specialist at BMI Chelsfield Park Hospital, Shamsi El-Hasani explains: “Gastric bypass procedures change the way that food is digested and absorbed. This will initiate hormonal changes so that blood sugar levels usually return to normal post-surgery. I have performed over 1000 bariatric procedures during my career, 30% of which were gastric bypass procedures.”
Research has shown that obesity surgery can have a major effect on improving the health of patients with type 2 diabetes. Patients who are overweight are more likely to develop Type 2 diabetes and severe obesity can also cause high blood pressure, heart disease, sleep apnoea and joint problems.

I’m well aware of the potential benefits of the gastric bypass in treating diabetes and how it works thanks; I did the research myself prior to having the operation, and I was under the care of one of the leading diabetes specialists in the country, Hence I am well aware that although it can be a great tool in the battle against diabetes it doesn’t cure diabetes neither is it always the case that the need for medication is removed post op.

I haven't taken any medication since the day after my operation, however I am still classified as diabetic and still have regular reviews and tests conducted by my GP. I really hope like me you are one of the lucky ones who are able to come off the medication post op.

if you knew my health condition only then would you understand, as i could die by then as ive had the same problem as my aunt and she died 18 months ago and seeing as im having lots of ops for the diabetes as i may need 3-4 ops within the 2 years because of diabetes and other health problems, i wouldent want to leave my child who depends on me as they are special needs and they have a disability

you havent researched so you may not be aware of the benefits

If your case presents a serious medical need for you to have the operation sooner then I’m sure the surgical team will consider that when they review it and if they feel it necessary I’m sure they will treat your case as a priority. However the fact that they have given you a waiting time of two years does rather indicate that they might not share your prognosis.

From what you say I am a little surprised that they haven’t considered you sooner for this operation.

Good luck with it x

 

[bonny]

Hi Bonny I think you will find that the vast majority of people on the nhs waiting list have serious health issues which is why they have funding as it's very difficult to get without co morbidities. Diabetes isn't cured by the op but can be vastly improved or put into remission as was my case and I think carlos' as well. You will probably need the waiting time so you can have all the tests and appointments you need and to prepare for the op so it is as safe as possible. The time will go quickly and you will be prepared when the time comes. You are one of the lucky ones to get the op on the nhs (as I was) given the cutbacks I think everyone will find it hard now. Good luck and hope the surgeon has been over cautious in timescales x

hi i asked my gp to see what can be done as i did say if it is a long time then at least im aware, and i can go private as you can have the op as soon as 5 weeks, but the gp thought i would not have to wait the time that the surgeon stated and gave me a choice to see another surgeon, my pct will give the op if i have a bmi of 40 without co morbidities, if ii wasent for the diabetes then i would not choose to have this op, im sure my meds are making me lose a bit of weight already
many thanks x

 

[bonny]

Well, Mr El Hasani told me it would be up to 12 months and I actually waited 8 months, but I suspect funding is much tighter this year. Two years does seem an awful long time though.

Welcome to the forum - you'll get all the support you need here, regardless how long it takes..

thank you rose, it was great to see you on friday

 

[Bev]

Wishing you all the very best and so glad you made the support meeting... I'm hoping too that my diabetes will go into remission post bypass... time will tell and all that we can do whilst we are waiting is to do the best for ourselves and to help the surgeon... wishing you all the luck in the world and sending love & hugs... take care xxx

 

[thinnerangela]

My diabetes took 11 months to go into remission after my op. I was on insulin until the amounts became so small to be neglible. It is still not and never will be cured I will always be a diabetic - even the surgeons don't know if it will be permanent because WLS hasn't been done for long enough - not even in America. My surgeon was one of the pioneers of WLS in the country and even he admits thry don't wholly know why diabetes goes into remission - it can't just be weight related cos some remits so soon after the surgery.

I waited 2 1/2 years from when I first asked for surgery for it to be done - I had type 2 diabetes and other co-morbidities and a BMI of 63.

I also have a child with special needs who through necessity was caring for both me and a very poorly dad.

I have to say none of these things speeded up my op - in fact I ended up at the Nuffield because I'd waited more than the 18 weeks.

It does take time for all the tests and getting funding - and as this is going to be even harder to get you may well have to wait.

It does pass quickly though once things start to happen

Most of us have other health problems as well as our obesity.

Hope you get the operation sooner but others need it too

xx

 

[bonny]

i dont think they really know themselves on waiting times as its now 3 years so they may as well take me off there list its no longer worth the stress

 

[Stellap]

My surgeon was one of the pioneers of WLS in the country and even he admits thry don't wholly know why diabetes goes into remission - it can't just be weight related cos some remits so soon after the surgery.

Hiya, when I asked my surgeon about why my diabetes symptoms disappeared so quickly (I went from blood sugar of 12 the night before the surgery to 5 the day after surgery) and he said that in the case of the bypass they reroute the small intestine and bypass the jejunum which is where the majority of sugar is carried and said research thought it was something to do with that, although they have more tests to do before they can prove it.

 

[bonny]

hi most people assumed that it was because of the weight loss, i have heard of many cases that 24 hours after the bypass op they were no longer diabetic and people in the usa want this surgery for there diabetes but they are of a normal bmi, as you say they dont fully know why this happens but it could be the future op for diabetics

 

[ruthw]

it seems everyone has got the wrong end of the stick ,and seem to think you should get it earlier than 2 or 3 years ,i know you didnt mean that you was just asking what the average wait time was for that hospital ,which is what ive done in some of my threads ..and if you went up the list the more health issues you had ..im under dr el hasani as you know bonny .,,so chin up love and we will wait together ..

 

[bonny]

i wanted a clearer idea and if there was any codes of practice, policys, as the 1 op could prevent me having a possiable 20 ops during the waiting time, when were told a certain amount of years from the surgeon and it keeps changing by years, then id be more realistic and think i will go private and re morgage or get some cash and go india, bromley pct said 18 weeks, then surgeon said 2 yrs
i contacted bromley pct again and they said to contact pals
it was my gp who thought i should have the bypass and when i told the gp of the wait it was her that asked me to choose another surgeon and i now know that i may still be considered higher on the list but as the surgeon is only doing 6 ops in a month instead of 26, we were unlucky
hopefully we will know more when we go to our next appointment in feb,

 

[bonny]

thanks 4 yr support ruth

 

[bonny]

My surgeon was one of the pioneers of WLS in the country and even he admits thry don't wholly know why diabetes goes into remission - it can't just be weight related cos some remits so soon after the surgery.

Hiya, when I asked my surgeon about why my diabetes symptoms disappeared so quickly (I went from blood sugar of 12 the night before the surgery to 5 the day after surgery) and he said that in the case of the bypass they reroute the small intestine and bypass the jejunum which is where the majority of sugar is carried and said research thought it was something to do with that, although they have more tests to do before they can prove it.

Wishing you all the very best and so glad you made the support meeting... I'm hoping too that my diabetes will go into remission post bypass... time will tell and all that we can do whilst we are waiting is to do the best for ourselves and to help the surgeon... wishing you all the luck in the world and sending love & hugs... take care xxx

have a wonderfull journey xx

 

[bonny]

many thanks since been changed to 3 years lol x