Alcohol

[clar01]

Hi guys

I know some people will hate this thread but also know some people will find it useful, it's information for the latter!

I am 10 weeks post op and had my first night out drinking with friends on Saturday. My surgeon said I could drink from 6 weeks, but I was still very nervous and was convinced I would have to go early or be in the loo all night!

Well about 10 Jack Daniels and an espresso martini later and I had a great night out! Yes I felt tipsy ( enough to dance and enjoy myself) I took it one drink at a time. No fizzy, just JD and lots of ice! I made sure I was well hydrated the next day and didn't feel too bad at all.

So just for those like me that have a night out planned, take it slowly but don't worry too much and enjoy yourself!!

I obviously don't and won't make a habit of drinking this much on one night out but the realistic amongst us know that occasionally needs must!!

Merry Xmas party season!! Xxxx

 

[Sampaterson]

Yeah. Brill

 

[amanda577]

Did you have a bypass Clar01? I know with my surgeon he advised no alcohol for the first 12 months, so wondered if maybe you had been banded or something rather...
I'm glad for your sake that you didn't get ill on the alcohol, but everyones reaction to alcohol after bypass is quite varied, so although you had a good experience, others may not be so lucky...
Myself personally even before I had a bypass 10 shots of any strong liquor would've had me on the floor let alone now.....

 

[clar01]

Hi Amanda. Yes I had a bypass too, my surgeon was Ameet Patel in London and it seems his rules are less cautious than most, very strict post op for 6 weeks but then it's pretty much life as usual (if that's ever poss) I tried bread, beef eggs etc. He is extremely well respected and has done hundreds of bypasses so I trust him implicitly. I would always say listen to your surgeon, but I think that's why a lot of us come on here as they all have so many differences!

I know 10 shots is a lot, and as I said I don't and won't be doing it often, but I wanted to mention my experience as I know there are several people in my situation who have been used to going out and drinking a lot more and wondering if they will ever have a fun night out drinking again, or perhaps a younger person who feels their life is on hold whilst all of there friends are off out.

It was one of the best nights out in a long time as I have lost 4 stone in 10 weeks and actually felt good about myself for the first time in ages!

I would urge anyone to drink responsibly, most people know their limits (unless there is a problem) and to be ultra cautious if it's your first time drinking since wlsurgery, but it's nice to now that you can go out and have a good time just like before xxxx

 

[babyseed]

Thanks for answering a lot of questions I was worried to ask in fear of negative feed back.

 

[Paul-H]

Hi

The biggest problem with drinking after a bypass are listed below

Because the alcohol hits the intestine in the wrong place even one drink might make you either very ill or very drunk or both.

The fear of being ill is supposed to keep you away from alcohol, just like the fear of dumping syndrome is supposed to keep you away from hi fat, and high sugar foods. That's called aversion therapy.

If you you one of those people not affected by the alcohol then you may end up being one of those people how gain quite a bit of weight due to the high calorific content of most alcoholic drinks, with Red Wine and Beers being the worst offenders.

For your own sake it would be safer just to stay off the alcohol. Especially if you are one of those people that suffers from addiction transference and being no longer able to feed you addiction to foods ends up transferring your addiction to drink and we all know where that leads to.

So don't be too keen to try these things out as you might well end up being one of those people that live to regret it.

After all you don't need alcohol to have a good time, that's just what alcoholics say to justify their excessive drinking.

Paul

 

[lamornamiss]

I have to agree with Paul on this!
I know of at least 5 people who are now alcoholics.
Most of them hardly touched alcohol before their ops. (They have all had bypasses)
So proceed with caution.
Why get you life back only to throw it away with another addiction.

By the way I have no problems with anyone having a drink. Just be careful

 

[clar01]

I understand that some people get addiction transfers, but I doubt that will be the case with me, seeing as I have been on an all inclusive holiday since Sunday and haven't had a drink yet! Understand the calorie issue and again it's once in a blue moon so no issues there.

There will be different things for different peeps, I just hope some people are like me and are actually happy they can go out and party with the rest of them xxxx

 

[Yvessa]

And I'm sure the people who got transfer addictions woke up one morning and thought, d'you know what, I think I'll become an alcoholic today. Just like we decided we were going to become life-threateningly obese.

Get real. Yes, everyone wants to enjoy a night out, but it can be done without 10 shots+.

 

[Miss Tickle]

I have to agree with Paul on this!
I know of at least 5 people who are now alcoholics.
Most of them hardly touched alcohol before their ops. (They have all had bypasses)
So proceed with caution.
Why get you life back only to throw it away with another addiction.

By the way I have no problems with anyone having a drink. Just be careful

Terrifiying !

 

[clar01]

I knew there would be negativity, the main problem is I am getting real! There are some of us out there who like to socialise and have a drink once in a while, we can't all be the same, I'm being honest which is what the forum is all about.
It's as if you want me to get a transfer addiction! By all means explain to me the dangers ( which I already know) but don't be rude and tell me to get real!
The reason I became morbidly obese is because I had no will power to make the right food choices, always opted for the wrong foods and could not control my portions. The difference with alcohol is, I can stop and did stop when I felt I'd enough, for some this might be 2 drinks for some it might be 15. I chose a non fizzy option without mixer and always had single shots with lots of ice.

I'm sure if some other long termers were honest they too have had big nights out. I'm not replacing food with alcohol I'm trying to lead a normal life and so far succeeding.

I can see now why the forum has so few long termers, I'm only 12 weeks out and already being judged!

 

[edge]

I knew there would be negativity, the main problem is I am getting real! There are some of us out there who like to socialise and have a drink once in a while, we can't all be the same, I'm being honest which is what the forum is all about.
It's as if you want me to get a transfer addiction! By all means explain to me the dangers ( which I already know) but don't be rude and tell me to get real!
The reason I became morbidly obese is because I had no will power to make the right food choices, always opted for the wrong foods and could not control my portions. The difference with alcohol is, I can stop and did stop when I felt I'd enough, for some this might be 2 drinks for some it might be 15. I chose a non fizzy option without mixer and always had single shots with lots of ice.

I'm sure if some other long termers were honest they too have had big nights out. I'm not replacing food with alcohol I'm trying to lead a normal life and so far succeeding.

I can see now why the forum has so few long termers, I'm only 12 weeks out and already being judged!

1st of all clar01,I would like to say well done on your weight loss,4stone is brill,secondly glad you had a great night out,I am looking forward to Xmas when I know I will go to a party or two,and I will probably have a drink of some sorts,As you say it's great to go out and know your limits,because as they say life does go on,life is for living not just existing,where as some people never drink or never have even before their surgery,It's everyone's personal choice,so I'm definitely not judging you.Enough said!!!

 

[MrsS]

And I'm sure the people who got transfer addictions woke up one morning and thought, d'you know what, I think I'll become an alcoholic today. Just like we decided we were going to become life-threateningly obese.

Get real. Yes, everyone wants to enjoy a night out, but it can be done without 10 shots+.

Well said!

 

[1974rach]

I knew there would be negativity, the main problem is I am getting real! There are some of us out there who like to socialise and have a drink once in a while, we can't all be the same, I'm being honest which is what the forum is all about.

I think you'll find that the responders are also being honest. You expected negativity, so don't be surprised when people react in a negative manner.

You have had MAJOR surgery and the majority of us have been told that alcohol is a no go area for a considerable time.

I appreciate that you have made a choice to have a night out and drink alcohol, but that does not necessarily mean that what you have done is appropriate for the rest of us.

It's as if you want me to get a transfer addiction! By all means explain to me the dangers ( which I already know) but don't be rude and tell me to get real!

I wouldn't say that anyone is wishing a Transfer Addiction on you - but the fact that you know the dangers and still went out drinking excessively means that you have disregarded them. I doubt whether you would get a positve response from your provider if you chose to tell them what you drank just 12 weeks after surgery.

The reason I became morbidly obese is because I had no will power to make the right food choices, always opted for the wrong foods and could not control my portions. The difference with alcohol is, I can stop and did stop when I felt I'd enough, for some this might be 2 drinks for some it might be 15. I chose a non fizzy option without mixer and always had single shots with lots of ice.

Regardless of the drinks you chose, you chose to drink high calorie alcohol. Was it necessary to drink 10 shots of Jack Daniels? Really? Fair enough have a good time, but for goodness sake THINK about why you had surgery

I'm sure if some other long termers were honest they too have had big nights out. I'm not replacing food with alcohol I'm trying to lead a normal life and so far succeeding.

Big nights out probably. Drinking to excess I would imagine not.

I can see now why the forum has so few long termers, I'm only 12 weeks out and already being judged!

I think you'll find that there are plenty of long termers. The reason you feel you are being judged is that the majority of forum users disagree with drinking as much as you did, so soon after surgery. You knew you'd get a negative response:

"I know some people will hate this thread but also know some people will find it useful, it's information for the latter!"

The fact your prediction came true can hardly be a surprise.

 

[lamornamiss]

I knew there would be negativity, the main problem is I am getting real! There are some of us out there who like to socialise and have a drink once in a while, we can't all be the same, I'm being honest which is what the forum is all about.
It's as if you want me to get a transfer addiction! By all means explain to me the dangers ( which I already know) but don't be rude and tell me to get real!
The reason I became morbidly obese is because I had no will power to make the right food choices, always opted for the wrong foods and could not control my portions. The difference with alcohol is, I can stop and did stop when I felt I'd enough, for some this might be 2 drinks for some it might be 15. I chose a non fizzy option without mixer and always had single shots with lots of ice.

I'm sure if some other long termers were honest they too have had big nights out. I'm not replacing food with alcohol I'm trying to lead a normal life and so far succeeding.

I can see now why the forum has so few long termers, I'm only 12 weeks out and already being judged!

I am a long termer 2 1/2 years out the people who I know who are now alcoholics are also long termers. (2-6 years post op)

Most long termers don't bother to comment on this kind of post due to the back lash they get from posting negative comments .
The others are too busy getting so p*ssed they can't find the web site to post.

I don't think anyone has said DON'T drink. They have said drink in moderation.
Sorry but in my reckoning 10 shots plus is down right irresponsible and just asking for trouble down the line.

Come back in 18 months and tell me you have lost all your weight and haven't got a problem with alcohol and I will apologize

 

[snack]

I think ppl are only trying too help even if it is buy kicking u up the bum , have a drink even a few but just be aware u are an addict and it can be very easy too swap one poison for another !! Know it sounds stupid but once u cotton on that u are an ADDICT maybe you will understand what everyone is trying to get across just because ur not sticking a needle in ur arm or robbing old ppl to pay for ur habit ur still an addict, I not saying never ever drink but just be aware of if it ,the ppl on here know what there on about they may sound harsh but they do have ur best interest at heart x

 

[clar01]

Thanks for all of your comments.

I will gladly post in 18 months letting you all know of my successful slimmer life where I can go out with friends and family and no doubt between now and then I will have a few more big nights out, in fact I definitely will. With my surgeons approval!

See you all in 18 months where I know I will be a slimmer non alcoholic!

I won't be able to go out a lot as I have a wonderful 1 year old to look after, but on special occasions and where I can find a baby sitter, I will enjoy nights out and a few good JDs to get the night going. I have tried sober dancing it just doesn't work! I have experiences with alcoholism, wouldn't wish it on anyone. I also have a very high powered job, take regular exams and couldn't function with regular alcohol intake. The odd Saturday night it is then.

Good luck to you all on your journeys and the paths you choose, life is a choice after all, I chose to spend £10k having my plumbing rearranged so I could lose this blubber, I generally make good life decisions and intend to continue to do so!

X

 

[Sashie1977]

I have to say, my bariatric team told me after 10 days that I could start having alcohol. I had a sleeve so I don't know if they treat the bypass differently with alcohol. The thing is, I haven't even wanted it. I have had a few nights out and for some reason I don't want any alcohol.
If you are happy, so be it! Your weight loss is fantastic!

 

[Vespa]

Oh for goodness sake people!! Leave the poor girl alone- glad you can offer advice but, jeez!

 

[pongis]

Oh for goodness sake people!! Leave the poor girl alone- glad you can offer advice but, jeez!

Here here!