did you have to cucumber and spring onions, i know you said no veg, but i didnt know if u meant them or not, cucumber isnt too bad if u take the skin off, its usually the skin that causes most problems with ppl. also i think duck/pancakes, need the spring onions/cucumber to make them nice, i too tried them once, pre op, and didnt have anything to put on them, and i didnt enjoy them at all, in fact they were horrible, i wouldnt have them again unless i had cucumber and spring onions. sorry, ive waffled, lol, hugs xx