Okay thanks, just would love to know when its going to happen, my doctor wrote to them over a month ago but not heard nothing, did you have to fill in a form to go down to cardiff hun and be approved for funding by them, very strict criteria, they wrote back said they have accepted me for funding to my gp and she wrote to a Mr New head of endoscopy services, just in limbo at the moment. So you have met them already?