sick to death of food

[tray]

i am so angry with my surgery, i honestly thought that after i had this op i wouldnt be able to eat that much, i had this op to stop me eating lots of food, when i eat a meal, ok its not as big as the meal i would of had before the op , but after an hour or even sooner im able to eat again. for tea i had 1 sausage about 8 oven chips 1 egg and some mushy peas. then about 2 hours later i had a small bar of areo choc, and now i have just eaten 2 yes 2 hot cross buns, and no its not head hunger as i had a whole glass of water 30 mins ago, and even now i could still eat more, this is just damn crazy.
i have spoken to a few people that have had there op at luton, and they to are saying they can eat a lot of food, we often compare what were eating and we are all annoyed at how much we can eat, one poor lady that had her op the same day as me had only lost 2 1/2 stone and has now put a stone on.
i dont think luton are making the pouch small enough, i also wonder if people really are losing the amount of weight they say they are, as in 7 months i have only lost 4 stone.
and like i said i know of several other people that have only lost a small amount since there op.
i really dont understand whats going on.........

 

[Big an Bouncy]

Sorry to be blunt hun but you have done really well,why when you are hungry are you eating sausage,chips,Aero and hotcross buns.Go back to basics and get good protien,veg and small amount of carbs in you three times a day with 2 snacks of either fruit or low fat yoghurt.You have done so well it just seems you are loosing your way a bit.Maz x

 

[cherry]

i agree as harsh as this sounds sometimes tough love is needed, i dont think your making the right food choices, ask to go back in and sit with the dietician and give a full honest account of what your eating.. you havent fallen into the trap of eating bad food and thinking, ooo but its in smaller quantities... because of course this will stem weight loss, you want to be eating steamed or grilled protein fish chicken with veg and carbs as a tiny amount...its easier said than done i know and i hope you dont think im being cow because im not, its just my opinion....and by the way lady 4 stone is not to be sniffed at!! its bloody fantastic!! and well done you! remember these surgeons are highly trained so i think its very doubtful they ve not made it small enough, i think as a group of you have sat there and discussed your problems you fed of each other and wound each other up to the point where your looking to blame the surgeon, when in actual fact, he s only put in place an aid to help you, the hard work lies with you yourself and if your not working with it, then as we all know the effects then effect your weightloss.....eeek i sound harsh dont mean to be

kel xxxx

 

[phatmomma]

Tracey i hear what your saying, i have to say i can agree with Maz even though she hasn't yet had her surgery...

You need to get back to good protein (sorry but sausage is not a 'good' protein, bacon would have been better) and concentrate on getting the protein in and the veg and then if you have room some carbs. Sorry yet again but oven chips have the nutritional value of cardboard as far as i can tell. They don't fill you properly and probably don't take too much digestion....

That aside i'm sure most days you don't eat like this and you know yourself that you can eat more than you thought you would. I'm with you on that one completely, i feel i can eat more than other bypassers and i'm not L&D.

I've actually resorted to having pills off my provider to 'bulk' out my pouch so i don't eat as much! I never thought having a bypass would make that an option....

I would say, and i freely admit it now, because i could get away with throwing the odd piece of junk in i did (egg custard, biscuit, odd pack of crisps, never fried food) more often than i should. Try writing a diary and being honest with it. When you've finished the days diary then take out the naughtys and see if there is much difference in your intake......

We have to take responsibilty for the food choices we make as we have to for the exercise we do also....

I hope the lbs start going again for you, and me and some others who are getting frustrated also...

All the best me lovely xx

 

[shelbell]

Tray I see you've posted on daftmoo's thread, go back to that and read my reply there as the same applies to you. If you want to feel full for longer then dry protein is the key.

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[keeley86]

thats what i was just going to say maz - you cant opt for chocolate and hot cross buns and then expect to have a fast weight loss - seems your making a few bad food choices wheres your veg? protein?
maybe you aught to give your dietician a ring hun! xxx

 

[shelbell]

Just to add with regards to volume and your unhappiness with bein able to eat 2 hot x buns, it's because they are simple carbs. As soon as they hit your saliva and then your pouch they break down to mush within minutes which passes straight through the stoma of your pouch, leaving room for more. If you tried to eat the same volume of chicken or fish you would feel the restriction kick in far sooner.

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[keeley86]

julie what difference does it make wether maz has had her op yet or not?

 

[simplylucy]

I've just seen on another thread that you said you can eat and drink at the same time with no problems.

Are you drinking at every meal?

The drink washes the food down quicker, which in turn will mean you can eat more and you'll be hungry again more quickly.

The whole idea of not drinking just before, with or just after a meal is to slow digestion and help you to feel fuller long.

Hope this helps.

 

[Stellap]

Having weight loss surgery doesn't stop you grazing as because you are eating less food it doesn't take as long to process so the fact that you can eat lots of little meals means it's imperative that you choose wisely. Im 14 months out and can eat quite a lot now so its down to me to eat wisely. What I tend to do is have a healthy meal that I usually can't finish but then when I get hungry later on have the other half - or have a piece of fruit or a yoghurt. We are what we eat - sad but true and having wls doesn't give us a blank sheet of paper to eat badly. You have done so well that it would be a shame for that good work to be undone - just a bit of refining your diet is needed I think, stick to hard protein, veg and stick to complex carbs (brown rice, butternut squash, brown pasta, pulses, etc) rather than sliders that go down easy and give you no nutritional value.

 

[Bev]

Hello Tray...
Just wanting to send a hug to you and to say I'm sorry you are feeling such disappointment with your surgery... you've done quite well to lose so much weight and you do look good precious...

I think Maz has made a very valid point, if you are able to go back to basics... plus discuss with your provider... and how about joining me in logging your daily intake for a few days to see if it helps.

Discuss it with your provider Tray...

Sending love and warm hugs to you xxx

 

[smilergem]

Hiya Tray, just want to say I feel what you are going through hun. I too can eat rubbish, and a lot of it, buns, crisps etc. A lot of my problem is that I am in a bad situation here at home, but when OH moves out next week, I hope to give myself a kick up the bum and try to eat more healthily, although I shan't be able to afford much food at all.
Take care darling, we will get there in the end xxxx

 

[zns]

I know how you are feeling wont be helped by this but you have lost 50% of your excess weight, thats about average. Its not a race you cant compare yourself to anyone else as everyone is different. Some people can and do eat more than others. You need to speak to your team about how you are feeling x

 

[tray]

i dont go to the appointments or talk to my team, as there sh** i see my own gp if i need to but i have only seen him once since my op, and i have been to luton once since op and im not going again as i feel i get more information from the web then i do from the so called team,and im not going all the way to luton from ipswich just for a 5 min chat to tell me what to eat, i know what to eat, but sometimes i want to have a treat, even if i have a meal full of protein im full for about an hour and then can eat more, i guess ill just stay as i am, im not to worried about it as it seems some people on here become obsessed with what they should be eating, im more annoyed at the amount i can eat not the type of food, i dont eat junk every day i pick more at fruit and low fat yogurts, but when your still not losing weight even after eating healthy then i sometimes feel like whats the point......

 

[cherry]

sweets i feel your frustration, and what a nightmare not having a 'supportive team' id go back to gp and even ask if you can be referred to a diff hospital maybe?... im not sure hun what to say seems to be a vivicious circle x

 

[yorkiegal]

I suppose it just proves that the bypass is a tool and not a magic way to stop you eating. I've read that it's very common for the appetite to come back with a vengeance after the honeymoon period of around 6 months.
You say some people here become obsessed with what they eat. Well duh! Anyone who read up on this surgery beforehand would know that it involves a lifelong commitment to keeping track of what we eat, ensuring we have the right amount of protein etc.
I know it must be really tough and I'm sure I'll have the same struggle post op, but you sound like you're talking yourself into being allowed to fail by blaming the pouch, the surgeon, the follow up team, anyone but yourself.
Remember just because you can eat a larger amount, doesn't mean you have to eat a larger amount. It's your choice. Perhaps you need to look at getting some psychological support to look at your issues with food.

 

[dottychic]

I havnt become obsessed with what I eat but Im deffinately more conscious of what I put in my mouth these days. I havnt had anything with more than 5% of sugar per 100 and I dont go over 10% of fat per 100g if I can help it. I havnt had anything I would class as junk food and try to eat as much fresh fruit and veg as I can. Im hoping that when I get closer to the weight I wanto to be that I will be able to have a little bit of what I fancy now and again but whilst Ive still got loads left to loose Im trying to be as "good" as I can XX

 

[cherry]

I have to agree with keeley.... why does it need pointing out that maz hasnt had her op yet?... does that mean her contribution to trays post means less, more, what?.. maybe its a typo and wasnt ment like that im not sure either way, it doesnt matter whos pre, post, in between, umming, arghhhing, pre historic, you get the picture, everyones help is and contribution to a problem is worth its weight in gold..

enough said x

 

[shelbell]

Seeing your team is about a lot more than dietary advice. You should be having regular blood tests to check for any deficiencies and your medication checked and adjusted accordingly by a specialist, not just a GP.

You seem angry with the replies you have had. Can I ask why? Or what in particular has upset you? I agree maybe some counselling to help you look at your relationship with food and self esteem may be beneficial, I think 95% of people who have reached a weight that would qualify them for bypass would benefit!

The bypass is a tool. It works for you in the first 6 months so many people feel they can eat what they want in this time as the weight still comes off, but after this you have to work for the bypass and if you don't then your weight will stall and your looking at regain.

I can see that you are saying that lots of L&D patients have had similar problems, if the aftercare and dietary advice is poor then it is more likely to be that which is at fault rather than the actual surgical process. As I have said on daftmoo's thread there is a test you can do to measure your pouch size with cottage cheese, if you are interested I will find the details for you.

I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to give you any support you need to get the weight moving again, if you are motivated to do this then feel free to pm me.

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[dottychic]

Id be interested to hear what the test is with cottage cheese Shell, Ive never heard of it. Im happy with my pouch up to now but it would just be interesting to see what the test entails XX