Surgery Cancelled Due to Not Losing Weight

[DaisyMaesy]

Has anybody had this happen to them? Have you been given a date for surgery and then on the day you turn up they say go away, you are not worthy you have not lost enough/any weight?

If it has not happened to you do you know of anyone this has happened to? Or are people being put under unneccessary stress before a major operation which in itself is stressful enough?

Please no lectures on how they want you to show commitment, liver shrinkage etc, these are separate issues, this is a straightforward question if anyone has been turned away on the day before being put under?

 

[Bev]

I remember our Paul, Chef Clay having some problems... check back it should be in one of his threads... xxx

 

[Wendy1]

I think that is a awful thing to say to anyone, we all try our best and its not easy. I hope someone can help you. Keep trying x

 

[cherry]

yes this has happened, to paul name but one, i was warned to at my last appointment

a blunt answer is obviously needed for this post ~ do exactly what they say and you cant go wrong!!

 

[cherry]

ps, i really dont think any health professional dealing with over weight people would say there not worthy for a op, they would just think you didnt want it enough to stick to it, lets face it, its very easy basic rules they put in place x

 

[juney_p]

when i started my wls road, i was told i must change my lifestyle. that included at each review by the consultant to prove by weight loss that i had.
i was aware the constant journey that i had to prove i could do it.
thank fully i had my surgery and now am 2 weeks post op.
x
june

 

[DaisyMaesy]

I think you have misunderstood here. It has not happened to me but we are getting a few posts here and on other forums where people are scared they will not get their surgery if they haven't lost weight. Now we hear of people who do not lose weight on the pre op liver diet etc, not because they haven't tried, my question was has anybody on the day of op been turned away? Yes maybe people have not lost weight and as 'punishment' have not been referred, but actually turned away on the day? (Must look at Paul's posts)

 

[DaisyMaesy]

Just read Paul's thread, what a horror story, how insensitive! Like I said my question is around someone on the actual day of op being told - go home you have put on weight.
Paul's cancellation was a few weeks before the actual op.
My question is mainly about people who have not lost weight on the pre op liver diet. The surgeon would not know until a person was 'open' would the lack of weight loss make a surgeon say, on the day, I am not doing this?
This is more about trying to reassure people who have only got a day or two to go to the op rather than being told to lose weight fairly early on

 

[keeley86]

yeah but if you think about it logically - how is it posable to not loose any weight - or even put weight on when youve done the pre op diet and stuck to it? for that to happen you must have not been maintaining before hand - so then again - if that was to happen it would be that sole persons fault and i would not blame a surgeon for turning that person away! i fear this will happen to me as i havent lost any weight since my last apointment and if i stay as i am, i expect nothing less than to be turned away. so its up to me to do something about it now.... which i am doing - i will make sure i have lost weight from my last weigh in at the hospital b4 i even start my pre op = then if i dont loose anything on the pre op it wont matter so long as i dont gain (which is impossable if you stick to the diet religously)

best to be safe than sorry!

 

[Mixman]

The pre-op liver diet is NOT to lose weight, it's to shrink your liver! It's to make the operation easier. There have been people who have followed the diet and woke up with nothing being done. 12 people in the Sheffield area I think was the last quoted!

Being refused because of not losing weight and refused an operation because you've not followed the pre-diet are 2 very different reasons!

 

[lotsabeefy]

When i got my date i had a massive binge for about 2 weeks and put on about 7lb then i went on milk diet and lost 10lb but when i arrived for my op i had only lost 3lb cos of what i had done.
Lucky for me nobody said anything and my op went as planned x

 

[Mixman]

yeah but if you think about it logically - how is it posable to not loose any weight - or even put weight on when youve done the pre op diet and stuck to it?

Because our bodies are very complexed things. Virtually ALL people go through a spell of not losing ANY weight at all after their operations even though they are eating next to nothing. Bodies shut down and conserve energy as they think they are starving. It has happened where people haven't lost weight but have shrunk their livers.

I get a big bee in my bonnet about this as people get scared of the scales on the pre-op diet. Don't worry about the scales, worry about sticking to the diet! The scales matter only after your first check up and you've been given the all clear!

 

[j.u.s.t.l.i.z.]

Sunderland will cancel op dates that have been given to people that have not lost the weight asked of them, this is explained at seminar, at the very 1st appointment x

 

[keeley86]

yeah i agree in what your saying mixxy - i didnt think of it that way, i wrongly forgot about the liver shrinking bit and always think of the diet as being for loosing weight! and its not - but if you have stuck to that diet religously its impossable to put on weight, so if a person gets turned away for putting on weight then it would be that persons fault. yeah?
and if you think about it, if what your saying is right (which i know it is) then a surgeon would be in the wrong for turning some one away thats put weight on because how would he know that your liver hasnt shrunk untill hes opened you up?
therefore that surgeon has just presumed you havent done the pre op diet correctly or even at all.

 

[keeley86]

so youve got to make sure you have lost weight before hand, no matter what! and if you dont then that whould be your fault that the surgeon has presumed you havent done the pre op diet right.

 

[keeley86]

lol - ive confused mesen na! haha

 

[Mixman]

I stuck to the diet religeously but my liver was too large still to do a full bypass, that's why I woke up with a sleeve. DR. Ackroyd, as well as any other surgeon, is experienced enough to know who has and hasn't stuck to the diet with the livers condition and your stomachs contents.

Stick to the diet, it's worth it. If anyone doesn't, it's only themselves they can blame.

 

[j.u.s.t.l.i.z.]

Stick to the diet, it's worth it. If anyone doesn't, it's only themselves they can blame.

well said Mickie x

 

[DaisyMaesy]

Because our bodies are very complexed things. Virtually ALL people go through a spell of not losing ANY weight at all after their operations even though they are eating next to nothing. Bodies shut down and conserve energy as they think they are starving. It has happened where people haven't lost weight but have shrunk their livers.

I get a big bee in my bonnet about this as people get scared of the scales on the pre-op diet. Don't worry about the scales, worry about sticking to the diet! The scales matter only after your first check up and you've been given the all clear!

Thank you Mixman. This is what I am after. It is reassurance for the people who are panicking because they have not lost weight on the pre op diet.
Someone elsewhere is stressing themselves out because they have not lost weight on this POD and that the surgeon may stop the op. I could not reassure as I did not know

 

[sugga]

The nurse at my pre op assessment told me that whatever i do i must stick to the milk diet religiously because when they do the op they will know if i have cheated. Some folk have cheated and been woke up after surgery and sent home because there liver was to big. Hope this helps x