Anyone else feel like they are doomed to fail?

[wannabeminime]

You're not alone becky! I was bypassed just over 2 weeks ago, and haven't lost any weight these last few days, and beginning to feel like I am actually hungry again, and so tempted to try and eat something even though I am only on the puree stage. I keep thinking maybe the bypass hasn't worked and all sorts of things. Hopefully this is just a stage to go through and things will look brighter as our bodies and our minds adjust to all of this xxx

Yes, i think everyone probably feels like this at some point, its just about getting used to losiing the old emotional crutch of food i think!

It's clearly comfort eating that you're doing and who can blame you at the moment! Have you tried the little pots of hartley's sugar free jelly's, they are yummy.

Perhaps if you have to nibble something you know is wrong, try suck it for a long time and nibbling it to smithereens before swallowing. That will be better for your sleeve and might lessen what you perceive to be the bad part of doing it as you might eat less.

Or look for things you enjoy but are acceptable, I'm a very simple eater so can't help here, it would have to be jelly and yoghurt for me lol

I havent got jelly or yoghurts in, but i like the yoghurt drinks and have been having one for breakkie. I think i may save this for the evening instead as its my fave meal. I am missing savoury things so i think i will get some laughing cow cheese triangles in and suck these in the eves. As for jelly, yuck!! Never like jelly, its the texture!!

When I wanna go on a binge, this is gonna sound silly but brush your teeth. I find it takes the edge off of it.

Good idea, thanks, i'll give it a try!

Hi becky,
I am in the same boat - trying to beat the evening munchies. They are a habit rather than a hunger and I am trying a few things to beat them. The obvious one is finding other things to do. Pictures of the change on the fridge. One thing I read was going to bed later made the body crave foods to keep its energy up. Also as I don't snack at all I actually have four meals so I try and use the fourth meal to satisfy any cravings. If you absolutely have to have something, have some sugar free jelly and low fat yoghurt in the fridge. Hope this helps? If you want support message me on fb - we can do this together

Like you, i am going to bed earlier as i am then away from the fridge, but i am a single mum and i hate going to bed before my kids! Sounds silly i know, but i feel like they should be in bed before me, even though they are 16 and 12! When i go onto food think it will get easier as the doc said to have 7 small meals. I can keep a couple for the eves. Its just this liquid diet is hard, the liquid doesnt keep you as full as food! I'll look for you on FB chat, thanks )

Wobble is right, those Hartleys sugar free jellies are the biz, delicious!

Jelly, :sign0137: !!!

Becky I don't know if the sleeve is similar to the bypass in the way it take time for you to feel the the full effects or not but thought I'd mention it just the same. In the early days everything is numb so you can't feel restriction and fullness like you will later on. It comes in stages and I'd say I didn't really start to feel it until I was 4 weeks post op, then more came around 8 weeks. Head hunger is a very real thing and seeing as you are going through a hard time anyway, coupled with post op/anaesthetic blues that is probably what you are feeling. I did for 3 or 4 weeks post op. Ways to combat it is to go for gentle walks and keep sipping water. Sometimes the feeling of needing to eat is dehydration anyway.
Weight wise what everyone said about weighing once a week is absolutely right. When I was weighing myself daily I often went up and down by a couple of pound over night. Even if you are not seeing it on the scales your fat cells are starting to break down inside your body and they will be flooding hormones into your system. This will make you more emotional, couple that with not being able to eat your emotional discomfort away, not feeling proper restriction yet and the other problems your having and it isn't easy is it? The early days are tough but it absolutely gets better and you wait until you start dropping those pounds, it makes it all worth it
Give yourself a break, you've been through a lot and all this is part of the recovery. It gets better I promise xx

You're absolutely right, i have neglected the water intake since i have been home, i must drink more, and i think the whole thing will get easier when i go onto solids. They are more filling! The anaesthetic is definately having an effect, i am totally whacked, but i am going back to work on thursday! Yikes! At least it will keep me busy, keep my mind off food, and off my dads affairs. xx

When I get the cravings to nibble now I just start to drink nas Squash.

I get that sweet kick with out all the cals.

Yep, must get a big jug and start drinking it like i was in the hospital, thanks!

Me too, I drink nas squash all the time.......and I put some nectar powder in for a bit of extra protein. Good advice from everyone Becky, dont weigh every day, sip sip sip. And Believe.............you WILL lose..........I PROMISE!!

Will do, whats nectar powder and where go i get it??

My advice would be to forget about the scales for at least a fortnight, get yourself into some routine, then go on to weigh yourself weekly. Everyone's body changes day by day, and you can even gain/lose a kilo in 24hrs just because of your body's balance.
The diet thing.... I agree with the 'a little of what you fancy...' method. As long as you incorporate it into your daily cals, don't substitute healthy, nutritional foods, it won't hurt. I would recommend you make a daily record of everything you eat though, so you can make sure you don't do it too often. My Fitness Pal is really good.

I signed up for my fitness pal a couple of days ago thanks, and my calories never go above about 700, but the scales arent budging! So i will go back to weekly weighs, but its hard for a scale hopper!!

It's easy for us to say, but you need to find something to do in the evenings to take your mind off food. Or every time you feel hungry have a cup of tea with a sweetener xx

I'll try the tea thanks, and like i said above, i go back to work on Thursday. I will be too busy to think about food then!!

Protein in your diet keeps hunger pangs away. Did your team not give you post op diet to follow? Victoria x

Yes victoria, they did, but i am still on the liquid phase. x

I think we are well aware of the post op diet but, as becky says, would prefer to eat what we should not. It is the same as on any diet = a kind of self punishment when things get us down for what ever reason. I had my op the same day as Becky and strangely I also would like to nibble at the moment but doubt I could if I tried. Today I have yearned at the smell of sausage rolls, why I do not know as I have never been fond of them. I only weigh once a week and that will be tomorrow morning at the same time that I weighed last week. Come on Becky this is going to work for us because if you eat you will bust your stitches.
The liquid diet is a bit boring as well so when we get onto the mashed food we can spice it up a bit. Not long now and that time will come

Yep, cant wait for a bit more variety! Good luck with the WI!!

You don't eally need a team to give you post op diet info you can just go here
BOSPA.org

Don't think hunger pangs are the problem and Becky's in the right place for the support she needs, it's better to get advice from others who have been in the same situation rather than from a medical team imo anyway.

Thanks, you're right, alot of my problems at the mo are emotional, but my crutch of food is gone. I will have to find something to replace it. I have so much pent up sadness, anger and frustration at the mo its unbelievable.

Your right Becky does need support, but we all got here because of over eating so she is supposed to be on liquids for a reason hence the mention of the team.

Wrap it up anyway you like but at the end of the day, eating what you ain't supposed to isn't going to help your health or recovery. Victoria x

Thanks, a bit of tough love never hurt anyone!! x:slap:

 

[wannabeminime]

And here is the reason for my stall, it explains it beautifully;

Weight Loss Stall or Plateau

I am feeling a bit more positive now!

 

[Yvessa]

Hi Becky
I beat the evening munchies last night!
I did the following things - planned my meals and did the online shopping so that kept me busy.
Whenever I had a craving I had a chai latte - don't know if you have any chai tea, but I made it up half water half milk and it was divine! Really tackled my sweet tooth.
And I homemake my own yoghurt so I can make it any flavour I want and had that for my fourth meal. Feeling much happier

 

[dimond]

Thanks for that Becky it's put my mind at rest too xxx

 

[wannabeminime]

Hi Becky
I beat the evening munchies last night!
I did the following things - planned my meals and did the online shopping so that kept me busy.
Whenever I had a craving I had a chai latte - don't know if you have any chai tea, but I made it up half water half milk and it was divine! Really tackled my sweet tooth.
And I homemake my own yoghurt so I can make it any flavour I want and had that for my fourth meal. Feeling much happier

Never heard of chai tea, I'll have to look it up!! And making your own yoghurt, i'm impressed! How do you do that?

 

[wannabeminime]

Thanks for that Becky it's put my mind at rest too xxx

You're welcome xx

 

[Yvessa]

Its actually quite easy if you have a thermos - I am lactose intolerant so cannot have the yoghurts in the supermarket and the 'free from' ones tend to be high fat and high sugar.

I found a 'live' yoghurt with the lowest amount of sugar - I managed to find one in asda that had 2.8 per 100g. I use four tablespoons yoghurt to one litre of lactose free UHT milk - fresh milk won't work. You heat the milk until its just warm to your finger, and then mix with the yoghurt. Swish boiling water in the thermos and empty - add yoghurt and milk mix and leave overnight. You can use gelatin to thicken it if you need to.

 

[Yvessa]

Oh - in the morning, empty the thermos into a tub - it should be smooth and thick, give it a stir and chill in the fridge for 4 hours - it will thicken.

 

[wannabeminime]

Sounds really clever!

 

[Yvessa]

Its something I picked up from my weight watchers days - once you've tried it once its quite easy. And its a lot cheaper than supermarket brands.

 

[incognito_46]

I'm dairy allergic so that sounds like a fab idea. Would the live yogurt be dairy though?

 

[Yvessa]

Unfortunatley yes, I am only lactose intolerant. It 'should' work with soya, but as soya is more expensive I didn't try it. It may be the solution for you - there are soya UHT milks and plain yoghurt. The only possible problem is that it may not culture the same - you would have to try and see. You would definitely need the gelatin to thicken it.

 

[incognito_46]

Thanks for that. I love the idea of making your own

 

[Bellydancer57]

Its actually quite easy if you have a thermos - I am lactose intolerant so cannot have the yoghurts in the supermarket and the 'free from' ones tend to be high fat and high sugar.

I found a 'live' yoghurt with the lowest amount of sugar - I managed to find one in asda that had 2.8 per 100g. I use four tablespoons yoghurt to one litre of lactose free UHT milk - fresh milk won't work. You heat the milk until its just warm to your finger, and then mix with the yoghurt. Swish boiling water in the thermos and empty - add yoghurt and milk mix and leave overnight. You can use gelatin to thicken it if you need to.

Have you tried this with almond or hazelnut milk? I have been making up my protein shakes with them & quite nice. Even nice to drink on their own or to make up a coffee with.

 

[Yvessa]

No I haven't, but imagine that it will work fine as its the starter culture and the temperature of the milk that makes the main difference. I am quite happy with the lactofree, but I may give it a try with the other milk..

 

[stuckinafatsuit]

Becky, in the 1st month i thought hang on, did he not take out this ghrelin hormone thats supposed to curb my appetite? believe me it will kick in once the body has healed, and as you lose the weight you go out more which keeps you away from the kitchen cupboards. Its not just the eating its the lifestyle youve got coming which will help you drop the weight.
Just ride with it and make really good healthy choices, you know you can do it, we all have to.

Kim

 

[wannabeminime]

Thanks Kim, that's reassuring to hear! Xx