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Length of bypass

ditzeeblonde

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I had my first post op appt today & was told I had a small bypass, that only 70 cm x 70 cm was bypassed, kinda didn't think much of it until I met up with some of the other girls who had had 1.5m x 1.5m bypassed....

Can anyone enlighten me as to what this means & to why its so different??

ThanQ. x
 
Well, as far as my research has told me, the length of roux limb bypass typically depends on BMI; those with a higher BMI (usually greater than 50), would have a 1.5 m bypass, whereas with a BMI of below 50, then usually just about 1 m is bypassed. Evidence shows anything greater than 1.5 m doesn't really increase weight-loss significantly when compared to the higher risk of malnourishment through malabsorption. That said, it seems that your slightly more modest 70 cm is typical in that each provider has their own specifications as to what they like to do. The vast majority of food absorption occurs within the first metere of the small intestine straight from the stomach, so I am quite sure you will have just as successful results as anyone who has had a slightly longer bypass xxx
 
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Thanks Angie, so do I absorb more nutrients having a smaller bypass?

I wondered if its less for a smaller bmi so that we don't loose too much??
 
I asked one of Mr Ammoris juniors who helped with my surgery and he wasnt very specific, he said well over a metre .......... so that kind of ties in with what Angie said. My BMI was very high. It must be so you dont loose too much I would think :D X
 
Found this interesting article...

Gastric Bypass Weight Loss Surgery information in Phoenix Arizona (AZ) this explains the differences that each surgery has... it would appear I have a proximal bypass :eek:

and this article.... (its no longer 'just' a bypass!!!):D

Many people wonder what exactly the differences between proximal and distal gastric bypasses are. The answer to this perplexing is about as complex as the length of a person's intestines. There are actually 4 classifications associated with a gastric bypass. It is in these 4 classifications that the terms distal and primal gastric bypass is more clearly understood. For starters, one can look at the intestines by its 25 foot of length and then dissect this length into section which becomes our classifications for a gastric bypass surgery.
The closest cut for the gastric bypass is the proximal, in which the bypass allows only a small amount of calorie and nutrient absorption into the body. Followed by the proximal cut you then have the medial gastric bypass which allows a moderate amount of calorie and nutrient absorption into the body. After the Medial then comes the distal gastric bypass cut in which there is a significant allowance of nutrient and calorie absorption. Finally you have a special cut which is known as the biliopancreatic diversion or duodenal switch. In this final specialized cut the patient will be able to absorb a significant amount of nutrients and calories while at the same time they will also be able to eat more food.
When talking about the proximal cut in the gastric bypass surgery, what we are talking about is that the intestines will be cut less than 100 centimeters away from the stomach where the surgeon will then slice the two ends into a "Y" shape before attaching the end that was left exposed to the newly made pouch. With the Medial cut, the same "Y" shape will still be made except that the cu itself will be between 100 and 150 centimeters away from the stomach. With the distal and the biliopancreatic diversion the cut will be made more than 150 centimeters away from the stomach before making the "Y" shape bypass.
When talking about the choice of cuts, what is actually being talked about is the amount of malabsorption that will be allowed after the procedure has been completed. Malabsorption in reality is a complication of the intestinal tract which is actually caused by the surgeon as a means to assist the process of loosing the weight. Not including the process of a gastric bypass, the body's malabsorption may also be caused by things like intolerance to milk products. It is the same concept and theory the surgeon will use, but rather than just focusing on milk alone, this process prevents the body from being able to absorb a large portion of the nutrients and calories you may ingest. The definition of the prefix mal means that there is damage or it is abnormal meaning that the process of the bypass is to purposely damage the body's ability to absorb nutrients and calories as a means to help lose weight.
 
DB I didnt reply earlier as I didnt know what to say, I am now enlightened.

Thanks for sharing it with us.:)
 
Good thread, i'm going to ask at my next appt which is some point during the rest of my life, or hopefully before christmas :) xx
 
It would be interesting to know how many people are aware of the amount of intestine they have had bypassed...???
 
Thanks Angie, so do I absorb more nutrients having a smaller bypass?

I wondered if its less for a smaller bmi so that we don't loose too much??

I asked my surgeon this question & apparently he reckons generally only 'proximal' bypasses are performed in the UK, & this is based on evidence available over the last 20 years or so (mainly from USA), which suggests a longer bypass (i.e greater than 1.5 m) doesn't not have any extra benefit to the patient in terms of weight loss in the long term.

I don't think it is a case of absorbing more calories due to having a slightly smaller roux limb, as like I mentioned previously, the vast majority of absorption is carried out in the first meter or so of small intestine anyway. To put it another way, you wouldn't lose weight faster with a longer roux limb bypass but you would almost definitely end up with nutrient deficiences (according to the evidence, protein deficiencies are particularly prevalent in long roux length bypasses).

As for the difference in limb length depending on BMI, I think you have hit the nail on the head...with a BMI lower than 50 you obviously have less weight to lose than individuals with a BMI of more then 50.
 
hi angie,

my next appointment is the 6 week one with the nurse and a dietican,I wonder if they will have this info ..
 
i have a 1.5 metre bypassed section, i did mention this to my surgeon, and he if i remember rightly said, 1.5 metres is the maximum, they used to do more but the risk of mortality due to i believe liver failure increased significantly
 
i have a 1.5 metre bypassed section, i did mention this to my surgeon, and he if i remember rightly said, 1.5 metres is the maximum, they used to do more but the risk of mortality due to i believe liver failure increased significantly

Oi you, why aren't you at work, lol? I love it that we all get different opinions coming from each surgeon/provider, if we total up all this knowledge, we'd be mini-experts ourselves!
 
Oi you, why aren't you at work, lol? I love it that we all get different opinions coming from each surgeon/provider, if we total up all this knowledge, we'd be mini-experts ourselves!

i have been, and i agree re all the info we recieve from our surgeons!!
 
I asked to see my notes when I saw the dietician and nurse last week and i have one metre bypassed and 70cm rejoin. So apparently mine is 100cm x 70cm. Looked at the little diagram on my notes and nurse tried to explain. Not sure I understood though!
 
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