weegie
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Best of luck Kirsty.
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November 2014 Surgeries
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Xenia67
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I have much more to lose as I started at 17 and half stone so it's probably come of quicker because of that. I know it's all relative but I can't wait to be in the 12 stone bracket - thing is no doubt once I get there I'll still not be content. I'll have a look at Kris Gunnars blog etc. I find things like that interesting, even if I don't click with the whole thing, I always tend to find something that I can take and hopefully learn from it. Thing is I'm like a child, I sulk if I know I can't have a drink or can't have a nice treat, I've tried all the so called distraction techniques but I can't make it work, for example 'paint your nails with your favourite colour and this should take your mind off hunger etc. whilst it dries you can't eat - oh yes you can, I've mastered the skill! Another one put your chocolate in the freezer - you can't eat it as fast - no but you can still eat the whole lot - just takes longer (no teeth at the end though!) and another put you biscuit tin on a higher shelf so you have to get a chair to reach them - again the process of getting the chair and eating one before I be stepped down and the naughtiness of the process gives me a kick. Hopeless! One day I hope to find the switch that works for me. X
purplepippa9
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Xenia have you tried CBT? I was really sceptical about it but did a course of it around the time of my surgery. Something did click in my head with it and although I'm struggling a bit with temptations I am still losing and am more aware of my eating.
purplepippa9
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And Kirsty too!
Su2ie
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I'd second that, I'm a big fan of CBT. Personally I think it should be a compulsory part of after care for wls!! The surgery is only part of the solution but as we well know doesn't solve the head issues which so many of us struggle with post surgery!
I'm actually training at the moment in NLP, CBT, counselling and coaching and will be setting up my practice later this year. I'm hoping to specialise in weight management and post surgery issues
I'm actually training at the moment in NLP, CBT, counselling and coaching and will be setting up my practice later this year. I'm hoping to specialise in weight management and post surgery issues
Xenia67
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I have tried CBT but not in relation to weight loss - and I did find it helpful so it might be worth revisiting it with food addiction. Strangely enough I'm going to a support group at the hospital where I had the surgery done tonight and someone is giving a talk on NLP - not sure if I have read about this before so it will be interesting. Thanks to you both for your advice xx
Xenia67
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I'd second that, I'm a big fan of CBT. Personally I think it should be a compulsory part of after care for wls!! The surgery is only part of the solution but as we well know doesn't solve the head issues which so many of us struggle with post surgery! I'm actually training at the moment in NLP, CBT, counselling and coaching and will be setting up my practice later this year. I'm hoping to specialise in weight management and post surgery issues
Good luck with the training - having experienced the process I'm sure this will help you xx
weegie
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Just dropping a link for those of us in Scotland http://www.nhs24.com/usefulresources/livinglife/ re CBT.
kurstywursty
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I had seven years of counselling from NHS eating disorder team. I am thinking of going back to my GP and asking to be re-referred. But if I couldn't get it right after seven years I'm maybe a lost cause :-( but thinking that along with my band the two might work together
purplepippa9
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Don't be disheartened Kirsty. I had years of self- funded therapy of various sorts and never felt it made much impact on my eating disorder but this latest CBT was different. There was something they said that seemed to click in my head (and I can't actually remember what it was they said now!) and now I seem to have a better understanding of what's going on in my head even if I can't always control my responses, although I do feel generally more in control. Ok here's an example - Chris is away this week for work and normally for me that would mean wall to wall eating. So I found myself in tesco on Tuesday buying ice cream, and other goodies that are my old friends. One of my triggers for eating is loneliness you see. Anyway I bought the goodies but having recognised what is going on in my head I am happy to report that the icecream is unopened and some of the goodies, though not all :-(, are still in the cupboard. I'm thinking of going back to one of the therapists that I liked for some top-up sessions now that some of my poorer food choices are creeping in. I guess we just have to keep trying and some things will help and some won't. I suspect our relationship with food will never be an easy one but with luck it may control us less in time. Sending hugs and looking forward to Manchester xx
kurstywursty
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Looking forward to meeting you too xx
I too eat when I'm lonely. I don't do Lonely! And the sad thing is I can feel lonely in a crowded room
Another trigger for me is boredom
I need to fill my days with doing stuff. I'm rubbish at being left with me and my thoughts. The therapy did let me suss all this out lol
See you soon xxx
I too eat when I'm lonely. I don't do Lonely! And the sad thing is I can feel lonely in a crowded room
Another trigger for me is boredom
I need to fill my days with doing stuff. I'm rubbish at being left with me and my thoughts. The therapy did let me suss all this out lol
See you soon xxx
tranquil_butterfly
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Evening all. Nice to see some activity on this thread. Where are the rest of the November oppers???
Tonight I feel a bit conflicted. No one at work knows about my surgery and due to a number of reasons I have been able to fob off enquiring questions. However last week someone told me I looked like I was wasting away. Err...I am still obese according to my BMI. I kinda understood where they were coming from though and I know it was said out of genuine concern.
Having had a band it has taken a long time to get my head around the difference between band restriction and sleeve restriction. I was constantly being sick and I wondered if it was due to just not understanding the signs around feeling full. Over the last few weeks something clicked in my head - suddenly I realised that actually there is only a tiny little space for food to sit in now and me trying to convince myself otherwise was simply leading to me throwing the excess up and feeling rotten to boot:sigh:. TMI I know.
So I started to adjust my eating pattern to suit and the sickness stopped. Tonight however I have thrown up after eating only a tiny amount of chicken and that being all the solid food I have managed all day.
My conflict ...I am now worrying about how much I can actually eat now. I have gotten into a habit of having nothing but a cup of tea in the morning, a few black coffees during the day and as much protein as I can manage in the evening with a bit of veg or salad. I have a hernia and suffer with terrible reflux for which I take 2 zoton fastabs a day. I am feeling ill - like this is not a healthy way to live and that I should be trying harder to have a more balanced intake - three meals a day - but I just cannot manage it. My restriction seems to be increasing every day but I cannot work out if it is real or in my head. Should I be worried or just go with the flow?
I am back at the hospital next week so at least I can say what is going. The hernia ( a complication form the band surgery they think) and it seems to be getting bigger as I can feel it protruding. The hospital know they need to operate and repair it so I am hoping they will be happy that I have lost enough weight to do it sooner rather than later.
I was told to expect slower weight loss having converted from the band and I was happy to accept that. I am not a fan of weighing as I realise it can become an unhealthy obsession so go by my clothes. Today I decided to wear a trousers suit to work which I have only been able to wear once a few years ago. It was huge on me but I wore it anyway - belts are a godsend. I am just feeling very confused right now.
TBx
. Where are the rest of the November oppers???Tonight I feel a bit conflicted. No one at work knows about my surgery and due to a number of reasons I have been able to fob off enquiring questions. However last week someone told me I looked like I was wasting away. Err...I am still obese according to my BMI. I kinda understood where they were coming from though and I know it was said out of genuine concern.
Having had a band it has taken a long time to get my head around the difference between band restriction and sleeve restriction. I was constantly being sick and I wondered if it was due to just not understanding the signs around feeling full. Over the last few weeks something clicked in my head - suddenly I realised that actually there is only a tiny little space for food to sit in now and me trying to convince myself otherwise was simply leading to me throwing the excess up and feeling rotten to boot:sigh:. TMI I know.
So I started to adjust my eating pattern to suit and the sickness stopped. Tonight however I have thrown up after eating only a tiny amount of chicken and that being all the solid food I have managed all day.
My conflict ...I am now worrying about how much I can actually eat now. I have gotten into a habit of having nothing but a cup of tea in the morning, a few black coffees during the day and as much protein as I can manage in the evening with a bit of veg or salad. I have a hernia and suffer with terrible reflux for which I take 2 zoton fastabs a day. I am feeling ill - like this is not a healthy way to live and that I should be trying harder to have a more balanced intake - three meals a day - but I just cannot manage it. My restriction seems to be increasing every day but I cannot work out if it is real or in my head. Should I be worried or just go with the flow?
I am back at the hospital next week so at least I can say what is going. The hernia ( a complication form the band surgery they think) and it seems to be getting bigger as I can feel it protruding. The hospital know they need to operate and repair it so I am hoping they will be happy that I have lost enough weight to do it sooner rather than later.
I was told to expect slower weight loss having converted from the band and I was happy to accept that. I am not a fan of weighing as I realise it can become an unhealthy obsession so go by my clothes. Today I decided to wear a trousers suit to work which I have only been able to wear once a few years ago. It was huge on me but I wore it anyway - belts are a godsend
. I am just feeling very confused right now.TBx
Su2ie
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It sounds like your appointment has come at the right time, you really need to discuss all of this with them as you don't seem to be eating anywhere near enough to keep you healthy. I know it must be really difficult with the hernia and reflux, it's the pits!!
Fingers crossed they'll get you sorted x
Fingers crossed they'll get you sorted x
SHARONA
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My oh my hope they sort the band prob out. Never mind you will get back down to your goal we are all behind you x
SHARONA
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Great advise tell us more so need this in my life right now! X
SHARONA
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Me too! X
SHARONA
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Hi i agree with Suzie things will get better hugs xEvening all. Nice to see some activity on this thread
tranquil_butterfly
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Hello all. Just checking in. How are you all doing? Today is Father's day and the first without my beloved dad and it has been really hard. I miss him so much. Over the last few months I have started grieving his loss. I finally decided it was time. Some days are harder than others. Things are still tough but he has been getting me through.
I had an appointment at the hospital on 10 June. They are going to do something about the hernia and I have to go for a CT scan in a few weeks to see what state it is in. They want my weight to stabilise before they operate but I am in a lot of pain with it so I am probably going to have to get into a fight with them about it:copon:
The weight is still slowly coming off. I now have this phobia about clothes and what size I actually am. I don't want to go into a shop and try things on. I know it's silly. I am pinning clothes or using belts to keep things on. We are still living in turmoil 6 months from moving in but Mr TB is unwell and between looking after him and work I haven't got the energy to start moving boxes and finding a home for things.
Food is still a struggle. I take two fastabs a day and that helps with the sickness and reflux but I am still struggling to get into a routine of eating three times a day. I need to get a grip because I know at some point I am going to hit a stall and probably go into a tail spin. They couldn't offer me any practical advice on this at the appointment other than keep trying. I feel comfortable about the slow weight loss although the loose skin is very noticeable. That I know I am going to live with as surgery for it is not an option.
Enough rambling from me. It would be good to hear from my fellow November oppers.
TBx
I had an appointment at the hospital on 10 June. They are going to do something about the hernia and I have to go for a CT scan in a few weeks to see what state it is in. They want my weight to stabilise before they operate but I am in a lot of pain with it so I am probably going to have to get into a fight with them about it:copon:
The weight is still slowly coming off. I now have this phobia about clothes and what size I actually am. I don't want to go into a shop and try things on. I know it's silly. I am pinning clothes or using belts to keep things on. We are still living in turmoil 6 months from moving in but Mr TB is unwell and between looking after him and work I haven't got the energy to start moving boxes and finding a home for things.
Food is still a struggle. I take two fastabs a day and that helps with the sickness and reflux but I am still struggling to get into a routine of eating three times a day. I need to get a grip because I know at some point I am going to hit a stall and probably go into a tail spin. They couldn't offer me any practical advice on this at the appointment other than keep trying
. I feel comfortable about the slow weight loss although the loose skin is very noticeable. That I know I am going to live with as surgery for it is not an option.Enough rambling from me. It would be good to hear from my fellow November oppers.
TBx
SHARONA
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Hi TB hugs i understand your grief as it passed fathers day very hard isn't it! Big hugs .Hello all. Just checking in. How are you all doing? Today is Father's day and the first without my beloved dad and it has been really hard. I miss him so much. Over the last few months I have started grieving his loss. I finally decided it was time. Some days are harder than others. Things are still tough but he has been getting me through. I had an appointment at the hospital on 10 June. They are going to do something about the hernia and I have to go for a CT scan in a few weeks to see what state it is in. They want my weight to stabilise before they operate but I am in a lot of pain with it so I am probably going to have to get into a fight with them about it:copon: The weight is still slowly coming off. I now have this phobia about clothes and what size I actually am. I don't want to go into a shop and try things on. I know it's silly. I am pinning clothes or using belts to keep things on. We are still living in turmoil 6 months from moving in but Mr TB is unwell and between looking after him and work I haven't got the energy to start moving boxes and finding a home for things. Food is still a struggle. I take two fastabs a day and that helps with the sickness and reflux but I am still struggling to get into a routine of eating three times a day. I need to get a grip because I know at some point I am going to hit a stall and probably go into a tail spin. They couldn't offer me any practical advice on this at the appointment other than keep trying
Although you have issues and i do hope they get sorted very very soon you have come along long way better than 7mths ago. Is the reflux doing anything to your teeth?? Why i say that I'm getting some reflux . So sorry to hear of Mr TB hope he gets better very soon. Don't worry about clothes its just are another expense and i have become obsessive with buying more and more something i can not afford.
Hope they can sort the hernia asap. Great to hear from you hun xx
