hope2bthina
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nina i'm on page 18!! better get off my bum and do some housework...will continue later on xx
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Neen
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Hi Girls ...I am sort of about and I want to fully answer everyone as soon as I can. I have the inlaws coming for dinner so I have been in the kitchen all morning!
Gaynor thank goodness you came back. I got your pm as well hun and you sound exactly what I was like before my defill.
It is no way to live and I strongly urge you to tell all to your team and get a barium swallow/defill organised.
Don't be afraid to do that OK? We need to make sure there is not a problem with the band and it sounds like you just need a slight defill.
Honestly I had half a mil out and I could suddenly eat anything.
If you stay posting we can make sure you stay on track with eating proper food again.
For your sake and your families , please stop procrastinating and phone the hospital because it could be half a mil out and all that horrible sickness and discomfort could be over.
Please make sure you get an appointment.
I muddled through and it was miserable and really unhealthy so go get yourself seen as soon as possible OK?
We can deal with the ability to eat more when we get to it....don't let the fear of gaining weight stop you from having less in your band OK?
Kelly and FFBB...I will reply to you fully too when I am free this evening.
FFBB it sounds like making a list of what did work on one side and what didn't on the other , might help sort out what's happening with you.
I would definately keep a religiously strict food journal and I would also point out that I noticed you said you were exercising hard at one point but only having 800 cals a day?? That's kinda keeping yourself in starvation mode as us comely ladies burn a heck of a lot more cals during exercise and everything than slimmer girls.
I can give you a good cal amount based on your current stats if you want xxxx
Gotta keep popping in and out of the kitchen but I wanted you to know that I am about and will get to you laters xxxxxx
Gaynor thank goodness you came back. I got your pm as well hun and you sound exactly what I was like before my defill.
It is no way to live and I strongly urge you to tell all to your team and get a barium swallow/defill organised.
Don't be afraid to do that OK? We need to make sure there is not a problem with the band and it sounds like you just need a slight defill.
Honestly I had half a mil out and I could suddenly eat anything.
If you stay posting we can make sure you stay on track with eating proper food again.
For your sake and your families , please stop procrastinating and phone the hospital because it could be half a mil out and all that horrible sickness and discomfort could be over.
Please make sure you get an appointment.
I muddled through and it was miserable and really unhealthy so go get yourself seen as soon as possible OK?
We can deal with the ability to eat more when we get to it....don't let the fear of gaining weight stop you from having less in your band OK?
Kelly and FFBB...I will reply to you fully too when I am free this evening.
FFBB it sounds like making a list of what did work on one side and what didn't on the other , might help sort out what's happening with you.
I would definately keep a religiously strict food journal and I would also point out that I noticed you said you were exercising hard at one point but only having 800 cals a day?? That's kinda keeping yourself in starvation mode as us comely ladies burn a heck of a lot more cals during exercise and everything than slimmer girls.
I can give you a good cal amount based on your current stats if you want xxxx
Gotta keep popping in and out of the kitchen but I wanted you to know that I am about and will get to you laters xxxxxx
Hello everyone
Gaynor hun, sorry you are still struggling. Im sure that another small defill will help you get back to being able to eat 'normally' x
Hope2bethina - if you get round to it hope you enjoy reading my diary! x
Neen - I hope dinner with the inlaws went well x
Julie - I hope your managing to eat again, stress really does effect banders ability to eat 'normally'.
Hope I havent missed anyone out! x
Forgot to weigh myself naked first thing but weighed myself at the gym after breakfast and before swimming, I have lost - wait for it, drum roll.............................................................................................................
4lbs! Very pleased with that!
Gaynor hun, sorry you are still struggling. Im sure that another small defill will help you get back to being able to eat 'normally' x
Hope2bethina - if you get round to it hope you enjoy reading my diary! x
Neen - I hope dinner with the inlaws went well x
Julie - I hope your managing to eat again, stress really does effect banders ability to eat 'normally'.
Hope I havent missed anyone out! x
Forgot to weigh myself naked first thing but weighed myself at the gym after breakfast and before swimming, I have lost - wait for it, drum roll.............................................................................................................
4lbs! Very pleased with that!
thinkbethin
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Well done on the 4lb loss!!!!
hope2bthina
New Member
Well nina i have finally managed to read all of your diary. It's taken me hours all 31 pages!. I have to say you are truely inspirational. It was great to see your pics part way thru..and witt wooo your beautiful...the difference in the 2 pictures is amazing you have done soooooo well. I admire you more for losing that much with a band, as you need much more will power and you always get back on that wagon.
In your dark moments i wanted to hug you and tell you, how far you have come. You will get there...it will take longer but the satisfaction when you do will be phenominal...and party we all shall.
As many have already said they couldn't have done as well as you have with all that you deal with, and having a son with AS i can imagine the things you deal with and yours is double. I changed schools too..had some great school outbursts and a teacher that would tell me what my son had done that day infront of everyone, i really could of punched her..maybe i should of, might of made me feel better, there were 3 of us with special children and she did it to all of us...catholic school too so caring not!!...so can feel your pain on that one for sure
You are so kind and helpful to everyone and i do understand what you mean about no one listens to you, but you do offer great advice and so what if you are not at goal...look how far you have come, and the knowledge you've gained!!
oh and don't even think of leaving...my brother is a policeman and i'll track you down lol xx
onwards and downwards for both of us xx
:thankyou: Thank you for inspiring me xxx
In your dark moments i wanted to hug you and tell you, how far you have come. You will get there...it will take longer but the satisfaction when you do will be phenominal...and party we all shall.
As many have already said they couldn't have done as well as you have with all that you deal with, and having a son with AS i can imagine the things you deal with and yours is double. I changed schools too..had some great school outbursts and a teacher that would tell me what my son had done that day infront of everyone, i really could of punched her..maybe i should of, might of made me feel better, there were 3 of us with special children and she did it to all of us...catholic school too so caring not!!...so can feel your pain on that one for sure
You are so kind and helpful to everyone and i do understand what you mean about no one listens to you, but you do offer great advice and so what if you are not at goal...look how far you have come, and the knowledge you've gained!!
oh and don't even think of leaving...my brother is a policeman and i'll track you down lol xx
onwards and downwards for both of us xx
:thankyou: Thank you for inspiring me xxx
hope2bthina
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Mazza i shall start yours tomorrow, i'm looking forward to it, no doubt it will take me a few days to get through it all lol. They are a great insight into what we will be going through both physically and emotionally.
Nina i meant to post that on your diary so i've copied and pasted it on...sorry bit brain dead!..hope your dinner went well and you've had a good weekend xx
Nina i meant to post that on your diary so i've copied and pasted it on...sorry bit brain dead!..hope your dinner went well and you've had a good weekend xx
hope2bthina
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Good day folks . A good day so far for me. The sun is shining and it always helps lift the mood. I have really bad dark days when nothing works not even chocolate..with good reason. I'll explain it all in my diary one day.
I have been shopping TWICE!! Had a list and still forgot things so had to go back, still all good exercise as i walked both times..the 2nd time some shoes did fall off the shelf into my basket in asda just happened to be my size too.
Anyway it kept me away from the fridge, so have had my breakfast and lunch and NO snacks.
Off to bop round the kitchen while i prep dinner..must look a right sight!..i live on a main road too oh well gives the peeps on the buses something to look at haha xx
. A good day so far for me. The sun is shining and it always helps lift the mood. I have really bad dark days when nothing works not even chocolate..with good reason. I'll explain it all in my diary one day. I have been shopping TWICE!! Had a list and still forgot things so had to go back, still all good exercise as i walked both times..the 2nd time some shoes did fall off the shelf into my basket in asda just happened to be my size too
. Anyway it kept me away from the fridge, so have had my breakfast and lunch and NO snacks
. Off to bop round the kitchen while i prep dinner..must look a right sight!..i live on a main road too
oh well gives the peeps on the buses something to look at haha xx
Neen
WLS Moderator
Good on you Kelly! Sounds like despite the dark days you can make the most of a good one when it comes along!
Hopefully more are in store and taking positive actions every day will help that happen , I'm sure
Non food treats are excellent too, hope you can add some new slinky clothes to go with the new shoes soon
Hopefully more are in store and taking positive actions every day will help that happen , I'm sure
Non food treats are excellent too, hope you can add some new slinky clothes to go with the new shoes soon
Rache
looking for my mojo
Well it's taken me some time but I've read through this thread from start to finish!! Thanks guys, it's lovely to hear motivational chat.
Firstly, CC thanks for the vids posted, interesting viewing, espesh the banders advice.
How come some of you are using protein powder? Are we meant to be doing this? There is nothing regarding that in my paperwork from hospital, I thought it was the bypassers who were meant to get extra protein in. Am I going wrong somewhere?
I'm 5.5 months down my road and 3.5 stone off with nearly 4 dress sizes too. Since my second fill eating must be done much more slowly I've noticed, but am still able to eat bread and pasta and meat. I've had a bug since the second fill and my stomach is still not happy, also had some form of exhausting virus and been wiped out the past two weeks, blood tests have not shown anything amiss so must be due to virus not anything I'm not consuming enough of.
As I've been ill I've not been in the slightest bit interested in eating properly. choc biscuits and crisps as snacks on top of my three meals a day.... then the guilt kicks in. well after reading all of your positivity I've decided this WILL stop. The reason I'm not seeing results is because I'm sabotaging myself (yet again) My meals are smaller, some days, and on the whole good food, chicken or fish, veg and a starch of some form, I don't think I drink enough, and can definately improve on this. Exercise has been the last thing on my mind. I'd got into a great routine with cycling and walking which has dwindled.
I'm signed off sick until Wednesday when I go back to work full time, so may be wiped the first week but determined to get this weight off now.
I have ten weeks until I hit the big 40, do you think 2 stone is too unrealistic a figure to lose in that time?
Time to get my sweet cheeks a moving on this journey and stop procrastinating.
Thanks for the thread it's been a godsend xxx
Firstly, CC thanks for the vids posted, interesting viewing, espesh the banders advice.
How come some of you are using protein powder? Are we meant to be doing this? There is nothing regarding that in my paperwork from hospital, I thought it was the bypassers who were meant to get extra protein in. Am I going wrong somewhere?
I'm 5.5 months down my road and 3.5 stone off with nearly 4 dress sizes too. Since my second fill eating must be done much more slowly I've noticed, but am still able to eat bread and pasta and meat. I've had a bug since the second fill and my stomach is still not happy, also had some form of exhausting virus and been wiped out the past two weeks, blood tests have not shown anything amiss so must be due to virus not anything I'm not consuming enough of.
As I've been ill I've not been in the slightest bit interested in eating properly. choc biscuits and crisps as snacks on top of my three meals a day.... then the guilt kicks in. well after reading all of your positivity I've decided this WILL stop. The reason I'm not seeing results is because I'm sabotaging myself (yet again) My meals are smaller, some days, and on the whole good food, chicken or fish, veg and a starch of some form, I don't think I drink enough, and can definately improve on this. Exercise has been the last thing on my mind. I'd got into a great routine with cycling and walking which has dwindled.
I'm signed off sick until Wednesday when I go back to work full time, so may be wiped the first week but determined to get this weight off now.
I have ten weeks until I hit the big 40, do you think 2 stone is too unrealistic a figure to lose in that time?
Time to get my sweet cheeks a moving on this journey and stop procrastinating.
Thanks for the thread it's been a godsend xxx
Fattyfattyboomboom
New Member
Evening Ladies
Firstly Mazza, what a great loss....any loss is good in my books
Kelly, How lucky are you to have shoes fall into your basket...and the right size...you lucky thing you Btw, I used to be one of those people on the bus have a nosey of an evening. It was always " i wonder what their life if like?" or " I know she didn't put that colour on the wall....Oh well, she can always repaint!" hahaha.
Neen- Well I have been keeping a diary of everything for some time to see where I might be going wrong, and no one can tell me. But I can see it in some dietians eyes the reckon I am fibbing...and I am not. I would honestly hold my hands up and say, you know what yeah, I was eating like a pig and not exercising so I deserve to be in the state I am....but I not that kind of person. Never have been. I am very disiplained ( can't spell but oh well hehehe).
Anyway I have switched to the lactose free milk as of yesterday and I managed to gain a pound. It is ridiculous. The milk is 200cals LESS that I was having on the normal semi skimmed. Plus I am not having the bovil either, I am just having a salt shot first thing in the morning as I haven't really wanted anything to eat at all. So, I guess I will see more tomorrow....I was down 7lbs in the week....so I have only lost 8lbs so far I was 9....I am still drinking water...maybe it is retention...who knows. I am still walking 3 miles a day at the least. and I reckon I am intaking about about 1117.20 cals a day previous with normal milk and now I am on 912...and water only...so it makes no sense at my weight why I wouldn't lose weight when i must have around 2300 cals to sustain my weight....
Go figure....oh well, I can only follow this as they suggest and stick to it. I must admit it was hard today when I was at some business classes...everyone had a break for lunch and all I had was water....I didn't want to take my milk so I have had to wait until I got home to have my 2.2 litres...I feel a bit sick now...but certainly not hungry. I have to go again on thursday, and I think I will take my milk. At least then I can have some for lunch. I must admit I felt a bit yuk today not having any milk like I normally would...so I will have to sort that.
anyway my rant over....Thanks again for your support and I know that once I get a chance to be on here more, I will hopefully be able to offer something to you all as well.
Firstly Mazza, what a great loss....any loss is good in my books
Kelly, How lucky are you to have shoes fall into your basket...and the right size...you lucky thing you
Btw, I used to be one of those people on the bus have a nosey of an evening. It was always " i wonder what their life if like?" or " I know she didn't put that colour on the wall....Oh well, she can always repaint!" hahaha.Neen- Well I have been keeping a diary of everything for some time to see where I might be going wrong, and no one can tell me. But I can see it in some dietians eyes the reckon I am fibbing...and I am not. I would honestly hold my hands up and say, you know what yeah, I was eating like a pig and not exercising so I deserve to be in the state I am....but I not that kind of person. Never have been. I am very disiplained ( can't spell but oh well hehehe).
Anyway I have switched to the lactose free milk as of yesterday and I managed to gain a pound. It is ridiculous. The milk is 200cals LESS that I was having on the normal semi skimmed. Plus I am not having the bovil either, I am just having a salt shot first thing in the morning as I haven't really wanted anything to eat at all. So, I guess I will see more tomorrow....I was down 7lbs in the week....so I have only lost 8lbs so far I was 9....I am still drinking water...maybe it is retention...who knows. I am still walking 3 miles a day at the least. and I reckon I am intaking about about 1117.20 cals a day previous with normal milk and now I am on 912...and water only...so it makes no sense at my weight why I wouldn't lose weight when i must have around 2300 cals to sustain my weight....
Go figure....oh well, I can only follow this as they suggest and stick to it. I must admit it was hard today when I was at some business classes...everyone had a break for lunch and all I had was water....I didn't want to take my milk so I have had to wait until I got home to have my 2.2 litres...I feel a bit sick now...but certainly not hungry. I have to go again on thursday, and I think I will take my milk. At least then I can have some for lunch. I must admit I felt a bit yuk today not having any milk like I normally would...so I will have to sort that.
anyway my rant over....Thanks again for your support and I know that once I get a chance to be on here more, I will hopefully be able to offer something to you all as well.
Neen
WLS Moderator
Hiya Rache !
I'm so glad you came back love, I think we can get you back on track.
Ok don't worry too much about the exercise for now, wait till you feel better.
I wrote a load of tips down for someone the other day to try and help them get back on track so I will copy it here and hopefully there will be something useful in amongst all of my waffling for you xx It was for someone with inadequate restriction but hopefully some useful ideas there to start you off x
GETTING BACK ON TRACK
You want to be eating as much veg, fruit and lean protein as you can. You can eat some wholegrain cereals and breads in moderation as these give you fibre, energy and help fill you up. I'm saying this because you aren't yet anywhere near decent restriction and you aren't going to be straight away.
Aim to eat every 4 hours in the daytime so that you don't get too hungry. This is what is happening to you at the moment and no wonder you go off and eat a lot of the old foods that got you into trouble in the first place.
Have some snacks ready prepared for you to have mid morning and mid afternoon so that you can go to them and avoid your blood sugar dropping right down between meals.
This is what is happening when you find you are starving hungry.
Have a bowl of drained tuna (in brine) mixed with a splash of vinegar and balck pepper ready in the fridge to dig into. This is really excellent for you, hardly any fat and very very filling. You can eat a whole tin and it will not do you any harm at all.
Also get a pack of almonds or walnuts and have a few of them (half a dozen) to nibble before tea to get the edge off
A couple bananas or apples , or a mullerlight
Make sure you have a snack ready for you to grab mid morning and mid afternoon.
At your current weight you can still have quite a nice generous calorie allowance and lose weight so don't be scared to eat regularly as long as you choose a healthy food.
What this is going to do is help you avoid getting so desparate that you eat uncontrollably and damage all your efforts.
Drink as much nice cold water and sugarfree squash as you can.
Get yourself some sugarfree lollipops to have when you fancy something sweet..
And most of all, stop running the same old negative thoughts round and round in your head...they are doing NOTHING for you apart from keeping you fat and making you give up every time you make a little mistake.
If you accidently choose something you wish you hadn't, straight away forget it and get back to taking one day at a time.
You can do it , try and stop expecting yourself to fail and remember to take it a day and a pound at a time.
I think in terms of your 2 stone goal..I would be really wary of putting a time deadline on it because our bodies are very peculiar at times...some weeks you just hang on to the weight, especially if you're stressed .
I think just focus on the one stone for now and don't give yourself a deadline.
You want to be making this attainable and not setting yourself up for disappointment and frustration if despite your best efforts, you just don't quite make your deadline.
Taking the pressure off this way may actually help you avoid a blow out if you make a mistake.
I can send you some hypnosis and that might help a wee bit, if nothing else it's relaxing!
If you are calorie counting at all I reckon you can do well on about 1600 cals but I can double check that if you want x
I'm so glad you came back love, I think we can get you back on track.
Ok don't worry too much about the exercise for now, wait till you feel better.
I wrote a load of tips down for someone the other day to try and help them get back on track so I will copy it here and hopefully there will be something useful in amongst all of my waffling for you xx It was for someone with inadequate restriction but hopefully some useful ideas there to start you off x
GETTING BACK ON TRACK
You want to be eating as much veg, fruit and lean protein as you can. You can eat some wholegrain cereals and breads in moderation as these give you fibre, energy and help fill you up. I'm saying this because you aren't yet anywhere near decent restriction and you aren't going to be straight away.
Aim to eat every 4 hours in the daytime so that you don't get too hungry. This is what is happening to you at the moment and no wonder you go off and eat a lot of the old foods that got you into trouble in the first place.
Have some snacks ready prepared for you to have mid morning and mid afternoon so that you can go to them and avoid your blood sugar dropping right down between meals.
This is what is happening when you find you are starving hungry.
Have a bowl of drained tuna (in brine) mixed with a splash of vinegar and balck pepper ready in the fridge to dig into. This is really excellent for you, hardly any fat and very very filling. You can eat a whole tin and it will not do you any harm at all.
Also get a pack of almonds or walnuts and have a few of them (half a dozen) to nibble before tea to get the edge off
A couple bananas or apples , or a mullerlight
Make sure you have a snack ready for you to grab mid morning and mid afternoon.
At your current weight you can still have quite a nice generous calorie allowance and lose weight so don't be scared to eat regularly as long as you choose a healthy food.
What this is going to do is help you avoid getting so desparate that you eat uncontrollably and damage all your efforts.
Drink as much nice cold water and sugarfree squash as you can.
Get yourself some sugarfree lollipops to have when you fancy something sweet..
And most of all, stop running the same old negative thoughts round and round in your head...they are doing NOTHING for you apart from keeping you fat and making you give up every time you make a little mistake.
If you accidently choose something you wish you hadn't, straight away forget it and get back to taking one day at a time.
You can do it , try and stop expecting yourself to fail and remember to take it a day and a pound at a time.
I think in terms of your 2 stone goal..I would be really wary of putting a time deadline on it because our bodies are very peculiar at times...some weeks you just hang on to the weight, especially if you're stressed .
I think just focus on the one stone for now and don't give yourself a deadline.
You want to be making this attainable and not setting yourself up for disappointment and frustration if despite your best efforts, you just don't quite make your deadline.
Taking the pressure off this way may actually help you avoid a blow out if you make a mistake.
I can send you some hypnosis and that might help a wee bit, if nothing else it's relaxing!
If you are calorie counting at all I reckon you can do well on about 1600 cals but I can double check that if you want x
Neen
WLS Moderator
Hi FFBB x
I know you must be feeling cheated ...The milk diet is putting your body in a quandry though and there's not much I can suggest really, try and stick at it because it's primary function is to shrink your liver right down.
Your cal amount is so minimal you are in starvation mode so it's not suprising your body is grabbing and holding anything you take in.
How often are you weighing yourself?
We go up and down fluid wise so much daily...it's better to weigh once a week at most or you are going to do your head in with it.
Whilst you are on the milk diet , I would pay more attention to your measurements as this is a much more reliable way to monitor your actual progess and less bewildering.
I know you must be feeling cheated ...The milk diet is putting your body in a quandry though and there's not much I can suggest really, try and stick at it because it's primary function is to shrink your liver right down.
Your cal amount is so minimal you are in starvation mode so it's not suprising your body is grabbing and holding anything you take in.
How often are you weighing yourself?
We go up and down fluid wise so much daily...it's better to weigh once a week at most or you are going to do your head in with it.
Whilst you are on the milk diet , I would pay more attention to your measurements as this is a much more reliable way to monitor your actual progess and less bewildering.
Fattyfattyboomboom
New Member
Neen,
I know what you are saying is just the right thing, and partly what I feel myself. It is just frustrating. Don't worry I won't go off the diet...this one I am sure it is shrink my liver and also to see if I can lose 5% of my body weight...which I only need to lose 8 more pounds by the end of the month. I KNOW I will do it. I think the thing I can't get my head around is that no matter what I do, less food, low cal, excerise...it just doesn't work. I was thinking that maybe I put the weight back on cuz I drank over 3 ltrs of water yesterday. I have drank 3 today, but am still drinking as I actually am thirsty. Being in the buisness class today, I was thirsty, but since I was drinking so much, I still keep going to the loo, and it was frustrating as I was missing important info....go figure! *LOL*
Anyway, fingers crossed I will have doen better tomorrow....yes, I do weigh myself every morning naked, I can't help it....a bit of OCD and a bit of let's just see...I know it is not a good thing to weigh more than once a week...I really just can't NOT weight myself.
Thanks Neen.
p.s just reading through the whole thread on page 4...
I know what you are saying is just the right thing, and partly what I feel myself. It is just frustrating. Don't worry I won't go off the diet...this one I am sure it is shrink my liver and also to see if I can lose 5% of my body weight...which I only need to lose 8 more pounds by the end of the month. I KNOW I will do it. I think the thing I can't get my head around is that no matter what I do, less food, low cal, excerise...it just doesn't work. I was thinking that maybe I put the weight back on cuz I drank over 3 ltrs of water yesterday. I have drank 3 today, but am still drinking as I actually am thirsty. Being in the buisness class today, I was thirsty, but since I was drinking so much, I still keep going to the loo, and it was frustrating as I was missing important info....go figure! *LOL*
Anyway, fingers crossed I will have doen better tomorrow....yes, I do weigh myself every morning naked, I can't help it....a bit of OCD and a bit of let's just see...I know it is not a good thing to weigh more than once a week...I really just can't NOT weight myself.
Thanks Neen.
p.s just reading through the whole thread on page 4...
