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[Fattyfattyboomboom]

neen....yeah it isn't his fault it is mine....so I take the blame for it. Meh, it was less that a very small single bit...it won't do any harm....i am sure I could have done worse...i told OH i didn't want it and he promptly took it away from me....so I know I WILL be just fine....i went for a long walk today, so i know nothing is going to be harmed.

Yeah I know what you mean about the pots... glad I brought them up....they have the same things but for kid sizes....I think the goverment should give them away to all school aged children for their parents....it may help parents to get to grips on how much a child portion is....

I know for my 5 year old...he only really get 5 tablespoons of food at a meal....doesn't sound like much....but it is. 1 tablespoon per year of life is perfect for kids. they only have small stomachs....

anyway...I am going to watch a film and then I am off to bed.....speak laters

 

[Rache]

Hi FFBB I've had the same thoughts with regards to a plastic portion plate for all children at school, if that can be taken home imagine the impact it could have on the obesity rates in kids, spesh if it had the latest 'in' charactor on. It wouldn't hurt and I know it must be expensive but on such a huge scale they are quite capable of getting good deals ref prices.
With regards to the portion pots I could use them now but 6 tablespoons int much is it!! I've cut down and have begun to feel some restriction but am not convinced I have hit that sweet spot yet, think one more fill may have me there. I was hoping the seconf fill would do me, and whereas I'm chucking up more (always down to me not chewing enough) I can still pack away a large teaplateful, not 6 tablespoons i must confess.
Today I had two slices toast for breckie, a bowl of granola for lunch and large teaplateful of veggies, one roast tato and not quite one chicken leg and thigh. I am eating me veggie first, always have loads of them as I love them best, then I eat the meat and leave the starchy stuff till the end. I think I'm training my brain/eyes to accept the smaller portions as much as my stomach.
Definately a comfort eater so the tips earlier were helpful. I'm trying to train myself to make a drink as my routine reaction before trying food as this does help me enormously. Unfortunatley I love food too much, the different textures and variety of foods amaze me.
I want to try everything, and not just a bite either!! Banding doesn't correct that urge unfortunately.
I do wish we got councilling as part of this process it would be so helpful, or some form of cognitive therapy. As ever it all comes down to cost.
Am plodding on, back to work tomorrow which should be interesting after all my time off, only for a week tho and then I have half term off.
Lol about the beefcakes, they look like they don't shave!!

Wishing everyone a great week xxx

 

[cah-ching]

hi all
Thanks Neen for the supportive message ref weight loss and hints and tips.
I can see what you mean about not putting too much pressure on.
SW worked for me in an odd way. I lost over 5 stone with it, I was also smoking like a trooper to curb cravings for food and working in a shop so on my feet all day every day. I could never work out how many sins actually worked for me. If I stuck to the 10-15 they suggested I never lost weight but if I had 50-100 a day I lost loads!!! It all ended up screwing my head up with yet more feelings of despair and failure, espesh when I finally quit smoking. It all went back on and gained every pound along with 3.5 more stone. We live and learn.
I was given a set of the RC scoopy things you mentioned mazza, I've saved the link you gave and will look it up for reference later this evening.
Been so poorly this month I can't believe!! Hammering headaches and exhaustion, then a streaming cold, now got me a fine little ear infection a brewing, it's making me feel very despondant. I have to say you all put me to shame. I am nowhere near as strict with myself as you all seem to be.
Time to work at it good and proper!!
This weekend was going well, I was feeling ok yest so went to pics and opticians with my girls, we all need glasses and I enjoyed the film. I made a bunch of choccy cakes and ear started playing up. Not done much today, got up and had a shower in an attempt to shake this illness, will be popping out Body Shop brochure collecting later, so will have a small walk and making the sunday roasty for tea, loads of veggies.
Bit of X Factor and I'm for bed.
Good to see the banter and looking forward to seeing the Monday mugshot (short haired and over 16 yrs special request lol)
Hope to look in later xxx

Hey Rache,

I'm no where near as strict as I could be. .. especially the intervening months between my op and first fill. I'm working to remedy that, although even now I have my really bad days like yesterday and today when I've been feeling extremely low about my failure with this band thing.

Anyway I hope you get well soon and that ear infection doesn't become ful-blown - ear infections are nasty nasty painful things. I feel for you.

Best wishes honey xxxx

 

[Leesh]

he he, the lumerjack song. My dad used to walk round singing that. Put me off lumberjacks though.

 

[Fattyfattyboomboom]

rache- well you know the country as a whole and the nhs would save more if they helped parents control portion sizes to help obese children. And more education. Just because a kid is thin doesn't mean they eat healthy...it is normally because they don't eat much. I have been at school when the kids eat packed lunches and the crap they is put in their lunches astound me. When my son has lunch he ( he normally has hot dinner) but when it is packed he always has carrot and cucumber sticks, a small cheese, and a sandwich with wholemeal bread ( home made) and either a thin pate/marmite/organic peanut butter or turkey and mustard.) I don[t put in a dessert....But that is just me....whilst my son get hot dinners I do not like the fact that it would appear that no one really checks to see how much they eat. My son says they put too much on his plate ( which I think puts him off) but he always has the dessert...which I don't like....so I only let him have the dessert on tuesdays and Thursday...I think sugary stuff at the end of the meal just promotes them feeling they have to have something sweet to finish off a meal, even if they are full. Plus at home we rarely have desserts so i think fruit for after if he is still hungry is ok. He is good about it...and he knows why I don't want him to have dessert everyday....this all goes back to everything in moderation...

ALso rache, I am sorry about your ear....I know that can be really bad. The last time I has a cold, i ended up having 2 middle ear infections....not pleasant I can tell you....I couldn't hear a thing. I used to have to sleep with the baby monitor on full blast just so I could hear the baby.

Did you know i f you speak to your doctor they can point you to a food specialist who can help with your food issues? I see a psycho-analyst which is free, as she gets her funding through the NHS, and I really feel she has opened my eyes up to my relationship with food, and has helped me draw a line under certain things and move forward. Which I think is extremely beneficial given our situations. Seeing someone once won't do it. It needs to be more regular.

anyway, yeah I am not feeling too bad about my blip...it was so minor that I doubt it will effect anything. it was literally a super small bit so I know nothing is going to be changed for me.



CC-you're doing a good job, just keep your chin up. Once you go to bed, the day is over and just start a fresh in the morning....and remember your exercise you're creating muscle and burning fat...so be patient....it will all catch up.


Leesh- *LOL* my uncle used to sing it too...my favourite from monty python was the 4 yorkshire men. *LOL* best skit ever!!

 

[cah-ching]

hey ffbb - thanks .... you really do make me smile!

 

[Neen]

Good morning all
Well first of all we need to post up the beefcake for this week...I have tried to cover the varying degrees of hairyness that we all favour so I have 3 guys to hopefully cater to all your whims
Enjoy the cake and hopefully it will tide you over to next Monday

One for Rache and the girls who like clean cut chaps (gilles-french actor)

My fave blond (born 1979 in OZ) Travis Fimmel

And for the beardy lovers...I am loving Jake Gyllenhaal in Prince of Persia ..yum!

 

[Neen]

OK I have had to come to face the truth this week.
I have basically been maintaining my weight since April and I think I have to face up to the fact that I can't have my treat weekends anymore.

Trouble is, I am good all week but then I still think that I can get away with pretty much a whole weekend of eating whatever I fancy...ok not in such large quantities as before the band, BUT large enough that it is wiping out my progress during the week and stopping me from going further.

I feel like I am letting you all down at the minute and wouldn't blame anyone for thinking I am talking out of my backside at the moment because I have not made progress.

So, trying to get it into my head that my treat days cannot be like they were when I was heavier is my lesson this week.
In fact, I don't even enjoy the "treats" that much anyway.

I hope that I can prove to myself that following my own advice works and not spoil it every week with the overdoing food on the weekend and kidding myself it's OK.

I hope that I can change my weekend habit now and get out of the rut so I can prove to myself and everyone else that I can get all the way down with a band x

I'm off to get on the treadmill now so I shall catch up with you all later on x
Let's have a fantastic week x

 

[Fattyfattyboomboom]

Morning Ladies---and any gentleman lurkers....hehehe


CC- I am glad I can make someone laugh...normally it is just myself who is laughing and everyone else is just staring..*LOL*

Neen, how was your gaming last night? Did you get what you wanted to do?

Well I have a slightly pinched nerve in my left shoulder so it is a bit hard at the moment to turn my head to the left...so when people were talking to me this morning, I was turned like so weird freak like thing...but that is ok...people know I am " interesting" so they just think it is normal I guess..*LOL*

Well I weighed myself again this morning and from yesterday I have lost.....guess how much.................................................. Go on..................................................... wait for it................. 2 oz a full- 52grams...*LOL* well it is better than a gain after my smidgey cheat....but I am going to be just fine...I have 4 more pounds to lose why next Thursday, so I should be fine. I will hopefully have lost it by the end of the week.

So I have already done the dishes, gone to the grocery store to get a few things....( MILK- WATER) I have a few more things to sort out but other than that, I think I am going to try and have an easy day today since this pinchy nerve thing doesn't feel so great. Plus we have some people coming by later and I am not too sure when they will come.

Oh, and me and my big mouth....I offered to make some cupcakes for the next PTA meeting to maybe encourage more parents to come...it was a throw away comment....but as it turns out....they put it in the minutes of the meeting and now it is splashed all over the school...*LOL* well the good thing is at least I will get more products out and people will be able to taste my work. But if they think I am going to be going crazy and making 4-5 dozen...well they are simply on crack...cuz that ain't gonna happen. I will make 2 dozen cupcakes and 1 lot of muffins and that is all.....It all costs me money....but then I think I will put some of my cards down so at least I can get some possible orders out of it.

Well ladies, I will check back on here in a bit....

Have a great day.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Fattyfattyboomboom]

Neen,

1) beef cakes are working wonders on me already....started smiling as soon as I saw them....but JAKE.....I can only see brokeback mountain....so it cuts it short for me......

*LOL*

2) You aren't letting any of us down...your progress if down to you....I think you are right though...if you treat yourself EVERY weekend, then it does mess up all your hard work during the week. You know...we all know, what we SHOULD be doing....and it is just doing it that takes time. But you just said it yourself, you aren't even really enjoying it....so don't.....treat yourself at the weekends with food.....use the money from the treat for physical treats like a manicure, massage, pedicure, take the kids out---go out as a family.If you have maintained since april, then you know you need to do something different....you've come so far and done so much....so just change a bit more, shift it up a bit....maybe just an extra 20 minutes exercise in..etc....I know you can do it.

But please please never feel like you are letting us down....It is for yourself that you do your losses.....not us....not your family, but yourself, and I know you want better.....so go get it!!!:hug99::hug99:

 

[Neen]

Hi Jenn !
Hope your shoulder gets back to normal soon..
And well done on losing some more, your self control is amazing and I am trying to emulate that this week as I drop my unhelpful habits.

My main problem is that when I was 25 stone ish, I could get away with a day of free eating...but now I am a lot lighter I just cannot do that anymore and still lose weight consistantly.
Being a foodie I am loathe to admit I can't justify the weekly blow outs anymore and common sense is nagging away at me because of course I know it's scuppering my progress.
This week is about choosing to get smaller over indulging all my food whims every Sat (and Sunday usually)

I'm doing it for me yes but I have felt a hypocrite this weekend about what I've been doing and I don't want to spoil the advice I know is sensible by not doing it myself to prove that it's based on something valid

 

[cah-ching]

Well I went to Rosemary Conley today .... the last and only time I'll pay to go, but I forked out £28 on 4 class meetings, a book, measuring thingy, aerobics class and those portion measure things. Not bad I thought although I'm proper skint.

I really wanted to go to the gym today but couldn't because of the bowel pain I have, so opted to do the RC one as a compromise as I knew it wouldn't be as challenging as the Body Attack class this evening.

So I think I'll follow the RC thing as a way to kick start myself and get some meaningful eating in. Apparently I'm on 1200kCals per day for two weeks to kick start the inch and weight loss then I move up in week 3 to my weight loss plan. Lovely to see RC is consistent and not a lot has changed since my last visit some 4 years ago - testament to a tried and successful method (I've always favoured RC over Weight Watchers and Slimming World ... way less faddy in my book plus exercise is emphasised encouraged and forms part of the class which is really good value for cash IMHO). Anyway the premise I'm most interested in is the <5%fat /100g approach - may be that's where I've gone wrong?

Anyway 2 stone goal to get to preferably before Christmas.

Was listening to Stephen Nolan on Sat night and in 18 weeks he's gone from 22St down to 16St. Ok we're all individuals, but he's not had an op so if he can do it, I can try to get to 18St by Dec 25th.

I'm going on and warbling a bit now .... but I hope you understand my drift.

 

[hope2bthina]

Hi ladies, hope your all well.
Cha ching, i am debating whether to go back to a fat club..pre op anyway but stopped going to slimming world about 6 weeks ago gained 2lbs not too bad but i'd like to lose more before my op anyway. I can't deceide where to go to slimming world or rosemary..i just seem to do better when i have to weigh with someone else!.

hello neen and mazza! xx

 

[Fattyfattyboomboom]

I am determined to lose those 4 lbs by the end of the week....fingers crossed. I KNOW I won't cave...it's only till next Thursday...that ain't that long...And I reckon they will be surprised I lost it.

Although it weird them weighting me....every time someone weighs me it does make me back....My parents were evil.....when i 14 for a whole year that used to weigh me everyday..and if I gained ANY weight I would be grounded. It was awful Not account for body fluctuations, times of the month...nothing. And it wasn't like I just sat on my a*se all day. I was at school, plus on a dance aerobics team, softball team, basketball team ( although was I a bit crap at it) the volleyball team, and I was a aerobics instructor in training. But if I just drank too much water the day before, i would put a pound on and I would be grounded until it came off....I wasn't even aloud to stay the same weight.....it was a must lose. It was only when I put my foot down and said it wasn't right and that they were being mean and unfair to me that they stopped ( evil step-father's idea).....so now when other people weigh me I feel uber anxious.....

But that is ok...all in a good cause and no one can ground me now!!! *LOL* grounding was such a bad idea...how was I mean to lose weight if I wasn't allowed to go anywhere? I honestly spent almost a whole year grounded......I was still allowed to do my sports though cuz it was for school.....

 

[Neen]

Sounds like a fantastic idea CC and I really hope that it is going to kick start you into your goal for Xmas!

Hope that your pain subsides soon and you can have a really positive week x

 

[Fattyfattyboomboom]

Well I went to Rosemary Conley today .... the last and only time I'll pay to go, but I forked out £28 on 4 class meetings, a book, measuring thingy, aerobics class and those portion measure things. Not bad I thought although I'm proper skint.

I really wanted to go to the gym today but couldn't because of the bowel pain I have, so opted to do the RC one as a compromise as I knew it wouldn't be as challenging as the Body Attack class this evening.

So I think I'll follow the RC thing as a way to kick start myself and get some meaningful eating in. Apparently I'm on 1200kCals per day for two weeks to kick start the inch and weight loss then I move up in week 3 to my weight loss plan. Lovely to see RC is consistent and not a lot has changed since my last visit some 4 years ago - testament to a tried and successful method (I've always favoured RC over Weight Watchers and Slimming World ... way less faddy in my book plus exercise is emphasised encouraged and forms part of the class which is really good value for cash IMHO). Anyway the premise I'm most interested in is the <5%fat /100g approach - may be that's where I've gone wrong?

Anyway 2 stone goal to get to preferably before Christmas.

Was listening to Stephen Nolan on Sat night and in 18 weeks he's gone from 22St down to 16St. Ok we're all individuals, but he's not had an op so if he can do it, I can try to get to 18St by Dec 25th.

I'm going on and warbling a bit now .... but I hope you understand my drift.

hey hun, go for it!! You can just do your best.....

Tell me more about the pots, what are the instructions on them? how exactly do they work?

I get you measure with them but what cups go for what.....


I am soooooo glad I brought them up now...seems like I got you all into this.....Nice one.....

 

[Fattyfattyboomboom]

Cc-- really sorry to hear you aren't well....it's not a nice thing...with all the normal semi skimmed milk i
was drinking I was in bowel hell......but I broke free with the lactose free milk....just gone the other way ( if you catch me drift) *LOL*

Neen- I am quite big myself...so i know what you were on about....TO lose what you have is totally inspiring to me.....you and I seem so similar but looking at you pic you are a much more beautiful woman that I am.....well.....close anyway! *LOL*

 

[Neen]

Kelly!!! There you are hun! How are ya?
I think a slimming club is a good idea..though for the sake of getting used to smaller portions that you have to get your head round for a band, I would go for the RC.
Don't worry about the 2lbs cos it will soon go againxxx

Jenn what a horrible misguided and damnright cruel way to treat you as a teen...that's awful xx But a real credit to you that you are not letting it hold you back from getting your body healthy again x
(reminds me a bit of my ex step dad although he would just say "You're a fat little freak and no-one will ever want you" on a daily basis...specially when I would go out to meet friends at a disco etc...not that I tried to very often!)

 

[Fattyfattyboomboom]

Neen,

I am beginning to wonder ifyour step father and my step father were brothers or something....Yeah I got all sorts from mine...."you're just a fat mexican who will never be anything!" "you'll never get a boyfriend being that fat!" etc.....funny thing was I wasn't fat...I was big...but I had plenty of boyfriends....never a problem...I may not have been a rake thin chick, but I had my curves in all the right places.....You know. So what if I packed some in the back....that was the point...certainly got boys to notice..*LOL*

It was my step father that really cuz a 80% of my issues.....my mother 10% for letting him treat me like I was worthless....and 10% my own father cuz of other issues and he was a pr*t. But that is ok....my step father may have my mum, but he has no one else....no friends cuz he is jerk....his kids hate him....cuz he is a jerk....his family hate him...cuz he's a jerk.....You see the pattern? *LOL*

He is a wife beating, children abusing, worthless idiot who lives a meaningless existence....so I reckon he is just jealous of me.....i have actually made something of my life...my children adore me....my children are polite and sweet and happy. I have a fantastic husband who worships me...the ambition to build a business for myself, after my helpped my husband built a multimillion pound company.....I live in a nice house in another country....I and more cultured then he could ever wish himself to be....and I have great friends....and to top it off....for all my FAT as he would say, I am more healthy then he is....so who's the loser now!! *LOL* what a sucker.....

ok rant over...*LOL*


Trust me.....I have no intentioned on telling my parents what I am going to do...it's none of their business...but eventually when they see me...they will both just have to keep their mouths shut.....but I am not going over there anytime soon.....

BTW-- I am American---hubby from manchester......so I live here.....

 

[hope2bthina]

Hiya neen i'm good thanks..had a mad night out with my oldest and bestest mate on saturday, did enough dancing to get rid of the vodka calories i think!. My friend has just started the process for an op so it'll be two very different people out in a few years time. How's things with you?

I did prefer rc as you get the exercise but my co ordination is terrible i was always going in a different direction to everyone else lol. I need to do something as i have been this weight for 2 months now...mind you i can easily gain half a stone in a week so not too bad if i look at it in that way!. I need a kick up the bum tho or i'll still be 16 stone odd when i start my pre op..i'd love to get into the 15's myself.

FFBB how evil was your step dad!! truely shocking the way some people behave...but good for you that you are dealing with things now...you can show him your new figure soon enough...love the name as well!! xx