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I feel for you Jenn and I know you are eating less processed..but maybe underestimating the amount of effect PCOS has on weight loss. I am sure (though forgive me if I am way off) that it impacts weight loss a lot...certainly have some PCOS folks on the forum so maybe it might be worth throwing a thread out to see what people say?

I really hope we can help you get to the bottom of all this because like you say, a band is a big committment financially and every other way too.

You mentioned having some success so only going by what you have said, if it was me in the situation I would maybe find out what a good calorie range is for current stats and follow a calorie controlled plan using all low GI foods.
With the band in place you should be able to keep it up indefinately because you would not be going off a diet so much as totally changing your eating habits to the new plan and having that as how you eat now and always.
(if the foods are best suited to your body)
I know I do badly on too many carbs and sugar (despite loving them) even too much fruit...so it would be much easier for me to go more towards low Gi as well and basically have that as my lifetime food plan.

Easier said than done though! But that's my cravings talking not my body.
 
I feel for you Jenn and I know you are eating less processed..but maybe underestimating the amount of effect PCOS has on weight loss. I am sure (though forgive me if I am way off) that it impacts weight loss a lot...certainly have some PCOS folks on the forum so maybe it might be worth throwing a thread out to see what people say?

I really hope we can help you get to the bottom of all this because like you say, a band is a big committment financially and every other way too.

You mentioned having some success so only going by what you have said, if it was me in the situation I would maybe find out what a good calorie range is for current stats and follow a calorie controlled plan using all low GI foods.
With the band in place you should be able to keep it up indefinately because you would not be going off a diet so much as totally changing your eating habits to the new plan and having that as how you eat now and always.
(if the foods are best suited to your body)
I know I do badly on too many carbs and sugar (despite loving them) even too much fruit...so it would be much easier for me to go more towards low Gi as well and basically have that as my lifetime food plan.

Easier said than done though! But that's my cravings talking not my body.

Maybe I am underestimating it all...who knows.....well, all I can do....is do my best and try and do all that I do now and take control of whatever is happening.... I am sorry to be so down today.....I am not really down as disappointed and frustrated.... I will talk to the dietician and see what she says........The low GI thing, I have been there and done that......in all honesty there have been very little in the way of diets that I didn't lose....it's just losing always stops...I hit plateaus, which i expect, but lose wind after a further 3-5 weeks of continuing on after the plateaus. I then think...what's the point of going through all this for nothing? You know....

Well I am off this milk come next week, and I have intention of making sure that I make the most of my losses and keep it going....but I know that I will put on a pound or two just all f a sudden eating again.... but fingers crossed something will happen....soon.....
 
I am soooooooooooooooo just wanting to eat something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not gonna but I wanna....I wonder if the not eating thing is causing these disgusting awful headaches I have had the last couple of days?
 
Hi Jenn, I think you are underestimating the effect PCOS and being diabetic has on your weight loss - aplogies for the long post but have a read of this ;)

Losing Weight with PCOS


This is a very difficult area for overweight women with PCOS who are constantly told by their care providers that they must lose weight. The very disease that is worsened by the excess weight conspires against them in this quest, making weight loss more difficult than usual. There is no one-shot, sure fire answer and the key is a combination of strict calorie reduction combined with aerobic exercise as part of a supervised programme.

Many women with PCOS find that they have issues with their weight. In fact, 50% to 60% of women with PCOS are considered to be obese, making weight loss an important issue for these women. However, because of PCOS, regular weight loss plans, particularly those that promise fast weight loss, may not be effective.


Weight loss is necessary for those women that are suffering from PCOS and are overweight or obese. Being obese has been linked to an increased risk of numerous health problems including:


  • Hormonal imbalance
  • Diabetes
  • Irregular periods
  • Heart Disease
  • High cholesterol
Yet, the risk for these problems is compounded by PCOS – obese women with PCOS are seven times more likely to develop diabetes or heart disease. Why? Because of insulin resistance.


Insulin resistance causes your LDL and triglyceride levels ("bad" cholesterol) to increase, while decreasing your levels of HDL ("good" cholesterol). And since women with PCOS and insulin resistance already have a hard time with insulin production, the likelihood of developing diabetes is significantly increased. Furthermore, insulin resistance can contribute to weight gain and make losing weight difficult, which can be very frustrating for PCOS sufferers.

How Losing Weight Helps

By losing weight, through diet and exercise, women affected by PCOS are more likely to have:

  • Regulate periods
  • More ovulatory cycles
  • Reduced hairiness
  • Stabilized hormone levels
  • Reduced risk of heart disease
Most importantly, though, weight loss will contribute to lowering insulin levels. Because high insulin levels has been found to contribute significantly to the many PCOS symptoms, reducing your insulin levels should result in an improvement in acne and hirsutism as well as decrease your risk for heart disease and diabetes.


Because weight loss has shown to have such a significant affect on the symptoms of PCOS, experts are now recommending that following a healthy diet and getting regular exercise be used as a first line treatment. However, in some cases, drugs like metformin may still be prescribed.

On the Path to Weight Loss

Although reducing your weight to fall into a "normal" or "average" category may be a long-term goal, it is not always necessary to lose a significant amount of weight before you notice an improvement in your PCOS symptoms. Studies have shown that losing between 5% and 10% of your body weight is often enough to ease the symptoms of PCOS. But how do you lose that weight?


Because carbohydrates are often linked to high insulin levels, women with PCOS are typically recommended to follow a low glycemic index diet. Foods in this type of diet do not cause a quick rise and fall in blood sugar levels and therefore help to prevent elevated insulin levels. Since carbohydrates are the main culprit behind rising insulin levels, many women may be tempted to cut out carbs from their diet or follow a low carb diet, such as the Atkins diet. This is not necessary, though, and may not even be healthy as these diet sometimes contain too much saturated fat, which has been linked to heart disease.


There is nothing wrong with having carbohydrates in your diet so long as they are the right kind of carbs. Instead of choosing starchy, processed carbs, which contribute to high insulin levels causing your blood sugar to remain low while you crave more carbs, opt for whole grain carbohydrates. Because they have more fibre in them, they take longer for your body to turn into sugar and therefore have a low gylcemic index.

Carbs: How Much is Too Much?

It is difficult to say precisely what is the right proportion of carbohydrates for women with PCOS as each woman is different and has their own dietary needs. Some experts, however, suggest that women that are overweight and affected by PCOS try reducing their daily carbohydrates intake to 40% of their diet. If no changes are noticed, then try reducing your daily carb intake a little more until you detect an improvement. If you become aware of any of the following changes, then it is likely that you have found the right balance of carbohydrates for you:

  • You have more energy
  • You have fewer cravings
  • You notice some weight loss
  • Your insulin levels are lower
  • Your periods become more regular
However, you may not need to reduce your carbohydrate intake too much. A study at the University of Alabama in the United States found that women with PCOS that consumed a diet comprised of 43% carbohydrates had reduced insulin levels and less insulin response to carbs.
Your carbohydrate intake is not the only thing to be concerned about when it comes to losing weight, though. You will also need to be careful of the amount of calories you consume. Consuming too many calories will result in weight gain, regardless of whether the calories come from a fat, carbohydrate or protein source. Additionally, try to eat your carbs with protein or fat and avoid consuming all of your carbs at one time, which can lead to a spike in your insulin levels rather than gradually rising over the course of the day.

More than Just a Diet

While a change in your diet can ease your PCOS symptoms and help you lose weight, you are likely to notice more improvement if you combine your healthy diet with regular exercise. Exercise has been shown to aid in weight loss by helping you burn more calories as well as lowering your blood pressure and increasing your HDL levels. Aim to engage in some form of aerobic exercise at least three times a week.


In addition to aerobic exercise, weight training is also recommended. Although many women shy away from weight training for fear of bulking up, exercising with low weights and doing higher repetitions of an exercise will actually help tone your muscles. Better yet, because muscles burn more calories than fat, building up your muscle will help you burn more calories throughout the day, even while you are resting. Furthermore, weight training helps to build up bone density, which can prevent osteoporosis later on.


In a nutshell the band will not help you achieve your desired weight loss unless you are prepared to embrace the healthy eating, exercise regime required - this goes for all forms of WLS though although, as many will tell you its even more important with a band. A good band diet consists of limiting starchy carbs and consuming low fat protein, fruit and veg.

Hope I havent sent you to sleep but no doubt the combination of the two are conspiring against you but you can do something about it, dont doubt that ;) x x x
 
I think you have hit the nail on the head though...in your words above
The low GI thing, I have been there and done that......in all honesty there have been very little in the way of diets that I didn't lose....it's just losing always stops...I hit plateaus, which i expect, but lose wind after a further 3-5 weeks of continuing on after the plateaus. I then think...what's the point of going through all this for nothing? You know....

What I am thinking is because you have the band and have that restriction, plateaus may come but you will have more ooomph to stick it out because you aren't on a diet anymore. You are eating in a lifelong new way. I think if you stick with it and not come off anything..your body will register that you are not in some weird famine thing and that it is safe to release the excess. It could just be a case of digging your heels in and remembering that this is now how you eat and you body will at some point catch up with you.
Hard to articulate it properly so I am sorry if it's sounding weird.

I don't blame you for feeling down on such a harsh regime for so long, it's bound to be taking it's toll on your body and giving it one last famine to fathom as well.
I think I saw somewhere it takes about a year for your body / metabolism to recover after one strict diet so no wonder it's hanging on to the reserves for dear life.
Just thinking logically.
That book I mentioned a page or two back is really good for explaining the scientific bits and much clearer than I could ever be.
If you or anyone else wants it in PDF form I can message a link for you to download it.

It explains a lot and maybe will have some answers that dieticians and us have not thought of or have knowledge enough to advise about?


Just seen what Mazza has posted and it looks very useful xxx Hope it sheds some light for you Jenn
 
Mazza/ Neen

Thanks a lot for all your info. Maybe you guys are right.....Well I will certainly try it . I knew pcos was there but figured it wasn't that bad....I mean I know it took me 8 years to get PG and when I did it was after losing 2 and a half stone....poof it happened...I figured it was over....and the second time i fell after 2 weeks of trying.......

Maybe I need to look more into it all.....and Neen, I am sure you are right...I think I just needed a bit of kick in the pants!!! Thanks!!
 
I just realised that link above you have to join it...but I joined for free for 24 hours and I am going to suck up what I can....but I put in all my stuff and found out that for me to lose weight ( in theroy) I should have abotu 1604 cals a day and that would be based on my exercise and stuff and i should lose 2 lbs a week....so this will be interesting.....but it is like £10 a month......*LOL* no chance...
 
I must say with regards to the pcos thread. I have done the low gi food. exercised more etc . lost a certain amount of weight . ..... and yet none of my periods have returned. and yet I am still finding it harder to lose weight. with regards to the "excess hair" facial or otherwise hasnt calmed down in the slightest, infact got worse, when health authorities tell me too lose weight and my symptoms will improve...is utter rubbish....I am half way in my weight loss journey and my symptoms have got worse.....not eased off in the slightest....I still have high cholestrol, high bp, irregular periods,borderline diabetic.

Studies have shown that losing between 5% and 10% of your body weight is often enough to ease the symptoms of PCOS. But how do you lose that weight?

I lost more then this and made no difference at all.........

Because carbohydrates are often linked to high insulin levels, women with PCOS are typically recommended to follow a low glycemic index diet.

Did this also and made no difference.

In addition to aerobic exercise, weight training is also recommended.

Did this also and didnt make no difference.

Just thought I would point out a few factors that was raised in the pcos thread (no offence to whom posted it) but I have had pcos since before my son was born (almost 18 years ago) and none of what has been mentioned have made any difference to pcos at all................. Julie xx
 
Ok this is long but I THOUGHT after my 24 hours is up this will be gone go i am putting it in here so ew can refer back to it.....


30 Diet Tips - To Help You Lose Weight Healthily
BY WLR DIETITIAN LYNDEL COSTAIN BSC RD

You could lose weight with that new crash diet, or opt for the ‘perfect 100 per cent of the time with your diet’ approach. But deep down you will know that these ‘all or nothing’ diets don’t last for long. Nor are they healthy – for body, mind or soul. Dietitian Lyndel Costain gives her top diet tips to lose weight and keep it off.

1. Stay clued up

Knowledge is power. By arming yourself with the facts about healthy diet, and ignoring the fads, you are more likely to build confidence in your abilities and achieve your weight loss goals.

Long term weight control is about being realistic, and enjoying healthy eating and exercise habits for life – and reaping all the benefits.

2. Have clear motivations

Write down your reasons for wanting to lose weight. Having clearly identified reasons helps your feeling of commitment.

Try to include reasons that aren’t just about appearance, for example, ‘will help me feel fit enough to do more of the things of I want to do’ or ‘will help my back pain’. Looking back on them can also be a very useful motivator if the going gets tough.


3. Keep a food diary

Writing down what you eat and drink and any thoughts linked to that eating helps you become more aware of your eating habits and problem areas. Recognising what is going on and understanding more about yourself is a powerful way to start planning changes to your diet and puts you in control.

Keeping a food diary, even intermittently, also helps you stay on track, and lets you look back to see the great progress you’ve made.


4. Weight goals

Losing 5-10% of your weight is an ideal target, according to research. This can be broken down into smaller manageable steps, for example, 4-5lbs at a time. Remember too that just keeping your weight stable is a great achievement in itself these days.

Losing modest amounts of weight are not just easier to keep off but bring big health benefits. For example, if you are overweight, losing 5-10% of your weight can halve your risk of type 2 diabetes.

5. Set realistic goals

When making changes to your diet and exercise habits start small and set a few realistic goals. If they are realistic, you are more likely to achieve and stick with them and feel successful, which in turn boosts your self-esteem and self-confidence for ongoing success.

6. Work out how to achieve your goals

Setting a goal ideally includes a plan for how to achieve it, and how to overcome things that might get in the way such as trigger eating (see below), poor food choices at work, eating the kid’s leftovers or too many takeaways. Writing your goals and action plans helps enormously.

7. Trigger eating

Much of the eating we do when we aren’t hungry, or the cravings we have, is a habit-like response to a variety of triggers. These can be external, such as the sight or smell of food, or internal and emotion-led, such as a response to stress, anger, boredom or emptiness.

A food diary helps you recognise this ‘trigger’ or ‘non-hungry’ eating, which in turn places you in a better position to deal with it. For example, make a conscious choice to eat (or not to eat - see below) a food.

Or plan ways to avoid triggers in the first place, for example, keep ‘binge’ foods out of the house or join an evening class to keep you away from the TV, crisps and wine bottle!

8. Be a conscious eater

Try to make conscious choices about what you eat, especially when tempted to overeat. For example, ask yourself, ‘I can eat this if I want to, but do I really feel like it?’

You can then choose to eat it (or some of it), or not, as you will have considered the consequences. Not only will it help you feel in control and achieve your goals, it will stop you feeling deprived.

9. Coping with cravings

If unwanted food cravings do strike, acknowledge them – have a chat to them even – then distract yourself, for example, with a chore, a more involving task, go out for a walk, call a friend or colleague, play with the kids, or paint your nails.

Like a wave, cravings rise then ebb away. By waiting 15 minutes and ‘surfing’ the craving, you should find they pass away – and your conscious choice becomes simple.

10. Eat regular meals

Regular meals, starting with breakfast, help you to regulate how much you eat by stabilising blood sugar levels and allowing you to recognise natural feelings of hunger and fullness.

They also stop you worrying about hunger as you will know your next meal or snack is not far away! And a healthy breakfast, is not only linked to long term weight control success, but a healthier, more nutritious diet overall.

11. Plan ahead

Plan ahead to ensure the right foods are available at the right time. Think about breakfast, lunch, healthy snacks and an evening meal. Have some ready meals in the fridge (serve with extra veg) for those emergency moments.

Planning can take extra time and effort, but it will soon become a habit that will really make a difference.

12. Beware ‘all or nothing’ thinking’

You know that feeling when you really overdo the chocolate or a night out and think you’ve blown it so may as well give up – and keep on eating… The blow out isn’t a problem, but your reaction could be.

Lapses are a normal part of change. You can’t be, nor need to be perfect 100% of the time to lose weight. Doing well 80-90% of the time is great progress. Rather than feel you have failed and give up, look at what you can learn from a bad day or week and plan to do things differently in the future. Then forgive, talk positively to yourself about what you have achieved already, and get back on track.

13. Build in some fave foods

It’s fine to build some fave foods into your healthy diet plan. Successful slimmers do it as it helps them avoid feeling deprived. Make sure you choose quality foods that you really feel like eating (do you fancy sweet, savoury, crunchy, creamy at that time?), sit down, eat slowly and savour them.

Deciding on what you will truly enjoy (and knowing that you can have it again another time if you want to) adds satisfaction and means you’re likely to be happy with a small amount.

14. Reward yourself

If you have set yourself some specific goals, for example, to have regular meals, or lose 3lbs in 2 weeks or eat your 5 a day, reward yourself when you have achieved it for example, with a new CD, seeing a movie, a new hairstyle, or outfit.

It will also help to plan a big reward for when you have achieved your longer term weight goal. You will definitely deserve it.

15. Get some support

It could be from a friend, partner, colleague at work, self-help group, health professional, health club, slimming group, book, tape or video, diet ‘buddy’ or chat room. Have a good chat with your supporters about how they can best help you. Getting the right support is a vital part of long term slimming success.

16. Keep it balanced

Make meals automatically healthy, balanced and satisfying. Half fill your plate with plenty of vegetables and salad and divide the other half between lean protein-rich foods such as lean meat, chicken, fish, pulses, Quorn or tofu and healthy carbs such as pasta, new potatoes, Basmati or brown rice.

17. Eat without distractions

Don’t let your best efforts to control how much you eat be sabotaged by doing something else during meals.

A study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that women who ate while listening to a story on the radio ate 70 calories more than women who ate with no distractions.

18. Avoid crash diets

They may be tempting, but a crash diet ultimately leads to rebound weight gain and feelings of failure.

The American Heart Association has "declared war" on crash diets, which they say "can undermine people’s health, can’t be followed for long, cause physical discomfort, and lead to disappointment when people regain the weight soon after." Still tempted?

19. Be active

Being more active and staying that way is one of the key strategies for long term success. Finding something you enjoy, and can fit into daily life helps ensure you keep it up.

Walking suits many people (see below), but gardening, dancing, team sports, gym workouts, martial arts, any active hobby all count. Doing it with someone else boosts motivation too.

20. Step 10,000

Aim to walk briskly for a total of 45 minutes each day to burn around 2000 calories a week (250 to 300 calories a day). Or buy a pedometer from a sports’ shop or via the internet and build up to doing 10,000, then if you can 15,000 steps – over the day. Research now shows that this level of daily activity is most effective for weight control.

21. More good reasons to be active

Regular physical activity, especially if you include some strength training, not only burns calories and boosts mood and energy levels but can build muscle. Muscle burns loads more calories than body fat, and just a 3 pound increase in the amount of muscle in your body can potentially burn enough extra calories to lose an extra 10lbs over a year.

22. Spice up your cooking skills

Cut fat but not flavour with herbs, spices, lemon juice, tomato paste, wine, low fat fromage frais, olives, capers, chilli, and sauces with less than 5g fat per 100g.

Grill, stir fry, bake, steam, char-grill, BBQ or microwave. A low fat cook book helps too – .

23. Read food labels – carefully

Check portion size, numbers of portions per package, and calorie content to make sure you aren’t getting more than you bargained for.

Check and compare similar products too – as there can be big calorie differences between brands. And remember that ‘low fat’ doesn’t mean ‘low calorie’.

24. Fill up on low energy density foods

Foods like vegetables, salad, fruit, chunky soups, low fat pasta sauces, low fat dairy foods, porridge, vegetable-based casseroles, beans, fish and lean meat are great building blocks of every meal and snack. They have a low energy density (low number of calories per bite), most have a low GI (glycaemic index) and all are not only healthy but help you feel fuller for longer.

25. Drink plenty

Have at least 6-8 glasses or cups of low calorie drinks over the day – more if you are hot or exercising.

The aim is to keep your urine a light straw colour – if it’s dark you need to drink more.

Drinking plenty helps you feel fuller and stops you confusing thirst with hunger, and eating when you really just need a drink. Spicy tomato or vegetable juice or a berry fizz (puree some fresh berries and top up with fizzy mineral water) are great, low cal between meal (or early evening) satisfiers to stop the nibbles – or the wine, if you want to cut back.

26. Practise saying ‘no’

We are often pressured to eat when we aren’t hungry. If you really don’t want to eat something, learning to say ‘no, thank you’ takes practise as we may feel we are upsetting others.

But you are in fact looking after your own needs. First practice saying ‘no’ at home by yourself. It will soon get easier

27. Keep food out of sight

Food is everywhere – on TV, magazines, shops, petrol stations - and can trigger cravings. At home, keep weakness foods out of sight, or out of the house!

Serve meals onto plates rather than from dishes on the table. And steer clear of buffet meals – studies show they encourage us to eat more.

28. Watch portion sizes

Keep a careful eye on portion sizes, when eating out or serving up your own meals at home. It isn’t always what you eat that can make weight loss tricky, but how much.

This can be especially true for dishes like bowls of pasta or fruit smoothies – their intrinsic ‘healthiness’ makes it easy to forget the portion size and calorie content.

29. Eat out wisely

‘Bank’ some calories for your meal out

Try not to view every meal out as an indulgent treat – eating out is now a regular part of life and restaurant food can be high in calories

Skip high fat butter, dressings, garlic bread, cream or cheese sauces, pastry, deep fried, battered foods and indulgent pudds (unless served with 4 spoons!)

Pile your plate with vegetables or salad

Watch the booze – quench thirst with water

30. Believe in Yourself

This final diet tip is just as important as the tips about eating and exercise.

If things go wrong don’t panic. Learning new habits takes time. Think back to when you learned to ride a bike. No-one expected you to do it the first time. You no doubt fell off a lot and needed picking up, with help along the way. Step by step you took control of that bike and learned how to keep it on course.

How you think, affects how you feel, and in turn the actions you take. Believe in yourself every day. Focus on what you want – being fitter, healthier – rather than how unfit you are. Setting realistic goals and having positive expectations will make all the difference.


Hope you enjoyed the long read ladies!!
 
I must say with regards to the pcos thread. I have done the low gi food. exercised more etc . lost a certain amount of weight . ..... and yet none of my periods have returned. and yet I am still finding it harder to lose weight. with regards to the "excess hair" facial or otherwise hasnt calmed down in the slightest, infact got worse, when health authorities tell me too lose weight and my symptoms will improve...is utter rubbish....I am half way in my weight loss journey and my symptoms have got worse.....not eased off in the slightest....I still have high cholestrol, high bp, irregular periods,borderline diabetic.

Studies have shown that losing between 5% and 10% of your body weight is often enough to ease the symptoms of PCOS. But how do you lose that weight?

I lost more then this and made no difference at all.........

Because carbohydrates are often linked to high insulin levels, women with PCOS are typically recommended to follow a low glycemic index diet.

Did this also and made no difference.

In addition to aerobic exercise, weight training is also recommended.

Did this also and didnt make no difference.

Just thought I would point out a few factors that was raised in the pcos thread (no offence to whom posted it) but I have had pcos since before my son was born (almost 18 years ago) and none of what has been mentioned have made any difference to pcos at all................. Julie xx[/COLOR


Julie.....I have done all of that too...but for me, I am not sure how the PCOS is effecting me.

I don't have any hair problems, or high BP, or Cholesterol, and I have regular periods....longer cycles but regular about every 5 and a half weeks apart.

I did the low GI diet when I was on the 1200 cal diet with body chef ( the people who prepack all your meals and deliver them to your door) plus I had a personal trainer at the time....I did lose weight...but is was slower than I thought it should be. It was less than 2 lbs a week for all the exercise and dieting.....

But I can only try again and see where it leads me...as long as I don't gain, then it can't be bad.....

Do you feel the band is working for you, where the other diets and exercised didn't?
 
Julie

The purpose of my post was to explain why its so difficult to lose weight with both PCOS and diabetes and to offer some advice which may help her.

Im not saying for a minute this will 'cure' her - Im not a doctor, it was just advice!

I had PCOS too - I say had because Ive had a hysterectomy now.

Losing weight does make a difference to your hormones and a healthy diet and exercise do help improve your health.
 
Julie.....I have done all of that too...but for me, I am not sure how the PCOS is effecting me.

I don't have any hair problems, or high BP, or Cholesterol, and I have regular periods....longer cycles but regular about every 5 and a half weeks apart.

Hiya, Even with my 4 stone weight loss it hasnt made my pcos lighten up at all hun, nor any of my health issues.

I did the low GI diet when I was on the 1200 cal diet with body chef ( the people who prepack all your meals and deliver them to your door) plus I had a personal trainer at the time....I did lose weight...but is was slower than I thought it should be. It was less than 2 lbs a week for all the exercise and dieting.....

But I can only try again and see where it leads me...as long as I don't gain, then it can't be bad.....

Do you feel the band is working for you, where the other diets and exercised didn't?

Julie

The purpose of my post was to explain why its so difficult to lose weight with both PCOS and diabetes and to offer some advice which may help her.

Im not saying for a minute this will 'cure' her - Im not a doctor, it was just advice!

I understand this hun , was merely just stating that just the run of the mil weight loss doesnt disperse pcos for every one, despite wot the "professionals" say

I had PCOS too - I say had because Ive had a hysterectomy now.

I asked for this and was told that dispite wot problems and health issues I have doesnt class me as a severe enough case to warrant this procedure.


P.s. wot I also meant to add was that when u have been told by the professionals .lose a stone or two and and ur symptoms will lessen and then after u have lost that and go back and they say couple more stone and the symptoms will be gone. and still 4/5 stone later they are worse then ever .....makes u wonder what the professionals know at all.....I been to several specialists and endocrine depts and apart from the tests and drugs they offer there isnt nowt they can do for me , because they wont take me ovaries out nor would consider a hysterectomy, wot chance do I have............Now I been referred back to a gynae once again 18 years after I was first referred to em .....
 
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Julie

Im not saying for a minute this will 'cure' her - Im not a doctor, it was just advice!

I understand this hun , was merely just stating that just the run of the mil weight loss doesnt disperse pcos for every one, despite wot the "professionals" say

The problem is that it has to be a change for life not just I tried that, thats the case for the band too. Losing the weight and potentialy helping the condition is a commitment for the long term.

I had PCOS too - I say had because Ive had a hysterectomy now.

I asked for this and was told that dispite wot problems and health issues I have doesnt class me as a severe enough case to warrant this procedure.

Blooming gynea people eh! I had to wait years for mine but I didnt even know I had PCOS until the results (or histology) from my op came back. I had endometriosis, adhesions, multiple fybroids and cysts - plus pre cancerous cells. I put on all of my weight whilst being treated for what I was told was 'just' endometriosis. So I was classed as not being bad enough either and despite having 3 laparoscopy's they still hadnt diagnosed me properly. Im in the process of complaining about this with my GP.



I would perservere if you want the hysterectomy, it really was the best thing that could have happened to me x x x
 
The problem is that it has to be a change for life not just I tried that, thats the case for the band too. Losing the weight and potentialy helping the condition is a commitment for the long term.

I know where ur coming from, I think I been trying enough after 18 years....and I know its for the long term as I havent entered into wls lightly hun and still am struggling with pcos. xx

I would perservere if you want the hysterectomy, it really was the best thing that could have happened to me x x x


Thanks for the info Mazza. I too had pre cancerous cells and my ovaries are swamped with cysts and barely functioning thats why I enquired for ovaries to be removed or hysterectomy, but I dont qualify for either unfortunately,.......so I know where u r coming from , and yes blooming gynae ppl (lol)
 
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