tranquil_butterfly
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Thanks Mazza. Just hope I don't crash and burn - but I am not going down without a fight
.tranquil x
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Thanks Mazza. Just hope I don't crash and burn - but I am not going down without a fight
.tranquil x
Is chicken stirfry a slider? I've had some chicken and a small amount of stirfry veg, and I'm still hungry
Hi Sarah
No chicken stir fry isnt a slider but the soup and yoghurt you had earlier is, so maybe thats why your hungry? but after the dentist no wonder you could only manage them x
Oh and yes my fill is still good
Rache
looking for my mojo
okay I feel guilty about my eating today, but what's done is done.
1/4 bowl of porridge-all went down today for brekkie
lunch was bought in as was in a long meeting that ran over lunchtime soooooo
one packet sarnie, only one left was ploughmans and was a massive 440 cals!!!
one packet of normal crisps- yup not a good day particularly
one fairy cake!!!! told ya
Afternoon snack was a banana
One small handful of dried fruit and nuts
tea was small slice gammon, tablspn mushy peas and 2 tblspns mash pots, small amount of thick parsley sauce.
One creme egg cornetto style ice cream (way too sweet for my liking so won't be having another of them!!)
Was hungry later on so had small bowl shredded wheat bitesize and now abso stuffed!!!
I don't want to think how many cals that would be in one day. It was a baddie and I felt out of control as lunch was not in my control.
When I went to make the slimfast drink type thing realised I had no ice so had the cereal instead.
Ice is now freezing as we speak!!
Nina what site do you watch the aussie biggest loser on as every time I try to go on and see it says I can't watch as not in aussieland. I love the aus version too.
Have a fab day tomorrow everyone)))
1/4 bowl of porridge-all went down today for brekkie
lunch was bought in as was in a long meeting that ran over lunchtime soooooo
one packet sarnie, only one left was ploughmans and was a massive 440 cals!!!
one packet of normal crisps- yup not a good day particularly
one fairy cake!!!! told ya
Afternoon snack was a banana
One small handful of dried fruit and nuts
tea was small slice gammon, tablspn mushy peas and 2 tblspns mash pots, small amount of thick parsley sauce.
One creme egg cornetto style ice cream (way too sweet for my liking so won't be having another of them!!)
Was hungry later on so had small bowl shredded wheat bitesize and now abso stuffed!!!
I don't want to think how many cals that would be in one day. It was a baddie and I felt out of control as lunch was not in my control.
When I went to make the slimfast drink type thing realised I had no ice so had the cereal instead.
Ice is now freezing as we speak!!
Nina what site do you watch the aussie biggest loser on as every time I try to go on and see it says I can't watch as not in aussieland. I love the aus version too.
Have a fab day tomorrow everyone
)))
Right then banders, another bit of advice for you all but please dont think Im being arrogant or teaching you all to suck eggs. Its just some advice to do with what you wish x
Our new stomach /pouch when the old part of the stomach is restricted takes very little good band food to fill. We have to try and forget alll the tips that work for non WLS patients and concentrate on just filling the new stomach ie eating foods that will keep you fuller for longer - these old types wont anymore. Chances are this type of food will slip through the band and stay in our old bit of stomach which isnt the part that 'feels' hunger.
Cereals, porridge etc are good complex carbs and for non WLS peeps they are fine but they are not good band choices. Think about the porridge slipping through and the cereal soaked in milk doing the same. Soups fall into the slider category too.
Its a tough one to get your head around but try and think of yourself as just having your pouch stomach and concentrate on filling that with protein, fruit and veg and 'dry' complex carbs.
Neen's tuna tip is an excellent example of this working
Hugs to all my fellow banders x x
Our new stomach /pouch when the old part of the stomach is restricted takes very little good band food to fill. We have to try and forget alll the tips that work for non WLS patients and concentrate on just filling the new stomach ie eating foods that will keep you fuller for longer - these old types wont anymore. Chances are this type of food will slip through the band and stay in our old bit of stomach which isnt the part that 'feels' hunger.
Cereals, porridge etc are good complex carbs and for non WLS peeps they are fine but they are not good band choices. Think about the porridge slipping through and the cereal soaked in milk doing the same. Soups fall into the slider category too.
Its a tough one to get your head around but try and think of yourself as just having your pouch stomach and concentrate on filling that with protein, fruit and veg and 'dry' complex carbs.
Neen's tuna tip is an excellent example of this working
Hugs to all my fellow banders x x
Neen
WLS Moderator
Just wanted to add my perspective a bit as I hope I'm not being a bad influence with my choices.
As a person who has been a complusive eater,with huge weight problems all my life pretty much, I am going for stuff that I know is within my limit of calories for the day and what fills me up enough that I cannot physically fit unwanted or unnecessary food in.
The calorie counting is my way of getting the band to work for me when in reality it is not enough just having it and good restriction to override the compulsive eating problem I still sometimes have.
I have porridge because I find it filling and slimfast is stopping me in my really bad danger time of the evenings..and the calorie counting is my way of keeping in control, when I don't calorie count my old habits of eating when not hungry and past restriction for emotional reasons, just take over and I end up going round in circles.
The fact that I stayed the same weight due to regains since this time last year with only a pound difference is why I'm doing what I'm doing and choosing what I'm choosing.
I hope that it's not confusing anyone or misleading xxxx
As a person who has been a complusive eater,with huge weight problems all my life pretty much, I am going for stuff that I know is within my limit of calories for the day and what fills me up enough that I cannot physically fit unwanted or unnecessary food in.
The calorie counting is my way of getting the band to work for me when in reality it is not enough just having it and good restriction to override the compulsive eating problem I still sometimes have.
I have porridge because I find it filling and slimfast is stopping me in my really bad danger time of the evenings..and the calorie counting is my way of keeping in control, when I don't calorie count my old habits of eating when not hungry and past restriction for emotional reasons, just take over and I end up going round in circles.
The fact that I stayed the same weight due to regains since this time last year with only a pound difference is why I'm doing what I'm doing and choosing what I'm choosing.
I hope that it's not confusing anyone or misleading xxxx
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tranquil_butterfly
Well-Known Member
Thanks so much to everyone for contributing ideas and suggestions. I find mornings the hardest mainly because of my BP in that it takes me so long to wake up and get going. I know if I have a solid breakfast e.g. an omelette rather than the weetabix then I tend to feel full for much longer - then my meals tend to get later into the day. So for example I end up having breakfast at 11. Lunch at 3 and my evening meal at 8 or 9 pm. Now the late evening meals is a bad habit developed from working late and getting home late which I have got to break when I get back to work - i.e. leave when I am supposed to leave and not 2 hours later - although I do not have the kind of job where that is always possible.
I hope with getting back to work things will even out. It can get really confusing in that which do you do - look at calories - go by the full feeling - knowing if you need a fill you may not necessarily get that - or both!
I suppose the key thing be it with a band or bypass that if you do not eat in a nutritionally balanced way it is not going to work.
I need to get to my bed - last late night for me for a while. Sorry for the rambling.
A very tired tranquil x:nightf:
. I hope with getting back to work things will even out. It can get really confusing in that which do you do - look at calories - go by the full feeling - knowing if you need a fill you may not necessarily get that - or both!
I suppose the key thing be it with a band or bypass that if you do not eat in a nutritionally balanced way it is not going to work.
I need to get to my bed - last late night for me for a while. Sorry for the rambling
.A very tired tranquil x:nightf:
Sarah Metcalf
New Member
Oh fgs!! I've just spent 15 mins writing a huge post and then lost it, so frustrated!!!!
Sarah Metcalf
New Member
Now I've put my dummy back in lol, I'll list my intake. Cba to rewrite the post but I was basically saying that thanks to Mazzas post I reread my diet sheet and discovered that it says to eat fruit with chunky soup and yoghurt, which I assume fills you.
Anyway so far I've had:
Breakfast: coffee and cereal (I'm still experimenting with different cereals; muesli gives me no restriction, fruit and fibre decent restriction)
S: Coffee and a sharon fruit
L: Nas cordial, 2 eggs scrambled, 2 bacon (I cut the long bit off, leaving just the round meat) and 3 button mushrooms. This looked like a large amount, and I'm now having stomach pains so think I ate too much
S: Coffee, fruit and yoghurt
D: Nas cordial, homemade chilli made with lots of chunky veg (carrots, celery, peppers, mushrooms and kidney beans) and a grating of cheese, twas scrumptious, I'll be interested to see if it's a slider as I haven't had it for a while.
I've drank a lot more today, so hoping it'll keep me nice and full.
Excercise: 1.15 hours of walking (to and from nursery and with dog)
Anyway so far I've had:
Breakfast: coffee and cereal (I'm still experimenting with different cereals; muesli gives me no restriction, fruit and fibre decent restriction)
S: Coffee and a sharon fruit
L: Nas cordial, 2 eggs scrambled, 2 bacon (I cut the long bit off, leaving just the round meat) and 3 button mushrooms. This looked like a large amount, and I'm now having stomach pains so think I ate too much
S: Coffee, fruit and yoghurt
D: Nas cordial, homemade chilli made with lots of chunky veg (carrots, celery, peppers, mushrooms and kidney beans) and a grating of cheese, twas scrumptious, I'll be interested to see if it's a slider as I haven't had it for a while.
I've drank a lot more today, so hoping it'll keep me nice and full.
Excercise: 1.15 hours of walking (to and from nursery and with dog)
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Rache
looking for my mojo
I'm a little confused, or maybe I've been doing things wrong all along.
I had no idea yoghurt was slider.
I don't have them often, maybe 2-3 a week, however I do find they are a right struggle sometimes to get down me. I have to eat them very slowly and it prob takes me 15 mins to get one down. I always presumed it was because they are cold. I always get fat free (justifying it to myself now)
I have found with a few of the slider foods mentioned they stick with me, mashed potato and crisps (the sliced type) both stick on me. Weird huh.
anyway having a much better day today
Brekkie
one slice toast with marmite (I love it)
Snack
Handful of dried fruit and nuts
Banana
Lunch
Tuna light lunch 195 cals and absoluminlutely gorgeous!!! I'm having the salsa one today and it's not too spicy for me, perfect sized meal and so tasty
Have drunk 3 hot drinks and one litre sf squash so far
Laters xx
I had no idea yoghurt was slider.
I don't have them often, maybe 2-3 a week, however I do find they are a right struggle sometimes to get down me. I have to eat them very slowly and it prob takes me 15 mins to get one down. I always presumed it was because they are cold. I always get fat free (justifying it to myself now)
I have found with a few of the slider foods mentioned they stick with me, mashed potato and crisps (the sliced type) both stick on me. Weird huh.
anyway having a much better day today
Brekkie
one slice toast with marmite (I love it
)Snack
Handful of dried fruit and nuts
Banana
Lunch
Tuna light lunch 195 cals and absoluminlutely gorgeous!!! I'm having the salsa one today and it's not too spicy for me, perfect sized meal and so tasty
Have drunk 3 hot drinks and one litre sf squash so far
Laters
xx
tranquil_butterfly
Well-Known Member
Hello all. I got myself up early and was doing work stuff by 7 am:sigh:. I wanted to see if I could get myself going to be able to eat something protein based before I have to go to work. I did not manage to eat until 9.30 am so when I do go out tomorrow for work I am going to have to get up much earlier. It is the no liquids before and after timings that is the issue for me. Anyway so far I have had:
Actimel
2 cups of coffee
2 egg omelette and 3 turkey rashers
Water
I still feel full so am going to delay my lunch for another hour so it will be about 3 pm.
Clearly need to work on this but as Mazza advised the denser protein breakfast has kept me going far better than the weetabix drowned in milk.
I am still blown up like the Michelin man but I am going to have to work through that as the doc suggested yesterday. I am worried about walking though given the state of my legs and ankles. I am hoping being in the office and moving about more may help this. Not only is the meeting starting at 8.30 but my boss has agreed to it being at another office to accommodate someone else which is a 20 minute walk from where I am based. Oh well...it will be a good test of my mobility - I am determined that she will not finish me off before I start although she is having a good go.
Will post rest of food later - got to get back to some work.
tranquil x
Actimel
2 cups of coffee
2 egg omelette and 3 turkey rashers
Water
I still feel full so am going to delay my lunch for another hour so it will be about 3 pm.
Clearly need to work on this but as Mazza advised the denser protein breakfast has kept me going far better than the weetabix drowned in milk.
I am still blown up like the Michelin man but I am going to have to work through that as the doc suggested yesterday. I am worried about walking though given the state of my legs and ankles. I am hoping being in the office and moving about more may help this. Not only is the meeting starting at 8.30 but my boss has agreed to it being at another office to accommodate someone else which is a 20 minute walk from where I am based. Oh well...it will be a good test of my mobility - I am determined that she will not finish me off before I start although she is having a good go
.Will post rest of food later - got to get back to some work
.tranquil x
Neen
WLS Moderator
Hiya all x So far today for me. All doing awesome today girls x Well done!
Cinnamon Oatso (with extra cinnamon...I have it quite thick and it takes ages to eat) 206 cals
Mediterranean tuna light lunch as it's my fave and I need portion control..also takes me ages to eat as it is so dense but very tasty. 219 cals
Weight watchers tomato and basil chicken with cabbage and leeks 314
slimfast 260
cocoa powder 12
total 1011
Cinnamon Oatso (with extra cinnamon...I have it quite thick and it takes ages to eat) 206 cals
Mediterranean tuna light lunch as it's my fave and I need portion control..also takes me ages to eat as it is so dense but very tasty. 219 cals
Weight watchers tomato and basil chicken with cabbage and leeks 314
slimfast 260
cocoa powder 12
total 1011
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Rache
looking for my mojo
Had 2 digestives and just had for my tea a teaplate of pork casserole with an egg sized potato and the rest of the plate piled with veg. It was yum and I'm feeling very satisfied and quite smug as I refused the ice cream for afters!!!
I will try the slim fast thingy tonight Nina, gonna sit and watch some Biggest loser first
xxxxxxx
I will try the slim fast thingy tonight Nina, gonna sit and watch some Biggest loser first
xxxxxxx
Neen
WLS Moderator
I watched a couple with Dean today, I love the Ozzie one!
I am going to put the cocoa powder in my shake again tonight as it made it a nicer choc flavour and I put a ton of ice in and got almost 2 pints of thick shake...obviously it was mainly water when you think about it , but lovely and thick at the time and totally wiped out any chance of anything else going down the gullet !!!
Crossing everything I can cross I lose a pound ...just a pound would be fantastic after last years epic fail!!
I am going to put the cocoa powder in my shake again tonight as it made it a nicer choc flavour and I put a ton of ice in and got almost 2 pints of thick shake...obviously it was mainly water when you think about it , but lovely and thick at the time and totally wiped out any chance of anything else going down the gullet !!!
Crossing everything I can cross I lose a pound ...just a pound would be fantastic after last years epic fail!!
Hi Rache
I found this good explanation of what is a slider in the context I was referring to:
Slider Foods
<li id="jsArticleStep1"> Certain foods are known as "slider foods" because they slide through the band easily. Slider foods include things like ice cream, milkshakes, pudding, yogurt and soups. People with Lap-Bands need to be cautious about eating these foods because they can easily eat too much of them.
Yoghurts as Sarah posted above eaten with chunky fruit is a good way of getting your fruit intake plus a bit of protien and will fill your banded pouch.
Glad you enjoyed your casserole, did you do it in the slow cooker?
x
Fingers crossed for the pound Neen x
I use slim fast myself but in the mornings - technically a slider but I wouldnt eat until lunchtime without it. I know Im odd but I prefer the ready ones!
My bariatric nurse said when she looked at my food diary some time ago that she can tell what kind of eater someone is by how they breakfast. Pre band I wasnt a morning eater but gradually eat more at each meal until the HUGE tea
Post band I struggle with breakfast, then have a protein / veg small carb combo for lunch, then protein / veg and little or no carbs in the evening.Dont get me wrong before I soooooo could pick all evening and prior to my last fill I sometimes did
but after my evening meal I just cant - sometimes I would like to - but .........................................
Your slim fast in the evening is a fab idea but the tuna tip is too to test just how little fills us x x x
